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Light safety detent on CSX

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#1 ·
I have twice found the safety in the off position when carried in my Tucker Cover-up plus. This holster was made for my 1911 Light Weight Commander, but is adjustable and I've used it for several different pistols. The holster has a sweat shield which covers the left side safety lever. I don't know if it is the sweat shield that disengages the safety on the draw, or somewhere along the line the right lever is bumped. No matter which cause, the safety has a fairly light detent/detent spring requiring only light pressure to disengage the safety. Placing the safety back on takes more effort.

I'd like to install a heavier spring. Marshall_3: Since you have done a detail strip of the CSX, is the spring under the right safety lever the one for the safety detent, or is it somewhere else? If it is, I have some small diameter springs that might do the trick.

BTW: I see that Vedder is making holsters for the CSX. I will probably give their paddle holster a try. I have a LightTuck for my CZ97.
 
Discussion starter · #4 ·
Though faily small, the serrations are "grippy", which makes up for the small size.

Great idea about working the leather on the sweat shield to fit the safety. That would eminimize the possibility of the rt lever being swiped off.

It would be nice to have a lt side only safety. I got rid of the ambi safety on the P938 I had by plugging in a P238 safety.
 
Discussion starter · #5 ·
The safety detent spring is a u-shaped flat spring with a smaller u-shaped bend in one of the legs. The smaller bend is what the left safety lever rides against for the detent action. The spring is located under the ejector, which can be removed after the sear pin is removed. I will probably try tweaking the spring a little, but not until I get a spare.

As a side note, my lgs has Girsan MCP35 that I got to check out. First thing I checked out was the safety. It was very easily moved to off too. That one would be easy to fix as it uses a coil spring. Actually, if I buy it, I'll probably replace the ambi safety with a left side only safety from C&S. Fitting it will be a chore, but it will be worth it.
 
Discussion starter · #7 ·
I got my CSX for $570, and they are asking $465 for the MCP35.

Check out the BHSS video reviews of the MCP35. It's 5-6 parts. They push their products, but they do a pretty thorough review. They ran 1250 rnds through it without a malfunction.
 
Discussion starter · #8 ·
I heard back from cs. They asked what I was looking for. Gave them the info, plus asked about getting a parts diagram/parts list. They came back saying the wanted me to get a rma and send the pistol to them so they could inspect it.

They must have read this thread and know what I have in mind, so I won't be getting the spring. I'm not going to send the pistol in as there isn't anything really wrong with it. I'd just prefer to have a bit more secure safety.
 
Discussion starter · #14 ·
I might be able to see this stance for a part that needs special fitting, but for a spring?

S&W isn't alone in this. To have the firing pin replaced on a Ruger bolt action rifle, you need to send in the whole rifle, not just the bolt!
 
Discussion starter · #16 ·
I'm not going to dump my CSX right yet. I bought it because it is a hammer fired, metal frame pistol with a safety that fits my hand very well and fits in my pocket. Given some time, maybe an outfit like Galloway will start making some custom parts for the CSX. Still is a bit frustrating right now.
 
Discussion starter · #20 · (Edited)
This past weekend while pocket carrying, I found the safety moved to the off position twice. Not good! What's the point of having a safety if it finds it's way off all the time?

After looking at the photo above, I think I know what is going on. In the safe position, the "F"ire bar is pushed down, compressing it's coil return spring. It's the pressure from this spring that makes moving to the off position so easy, and requires a bit more effort to return to the safe position.

So, I will need to have a heavier detent spring, or a lighter "F" bar spring to get a more tension on the safety detent.
 
Discussion starter · #21 · (Edited)
This holster will take care of the problem during pocket carry: Pocket Locker Holster There are sweat shields on both sides so both safety levers are covered.

For owb/iwb carry, I'd still like to beef up the detent action. I've decided that getting a weaker "F" bar spring wouldn't be a good idea. That leaves adding some more spring action at the detent spring, Not sure if it is doable, but I'll try to come up with something.
 
Discussion starter · #27 ·
The safety being moved to off while pocket carrying was a real problem for me, but the Pocket Locker took care of the issue as it covers the safety on both sides.

The CSX is a bit large and heavy for pocket carry, and it does print, but I only pocket carry on certain occations like when I'm with the grandkids. I don't mind the printing. I just want to have a pistol on me at all times.

As far as the weight, I use the heavy duty Perry suspenders. They make carrying a heavy pistol like my CZ97B and the relatively light CSX a breeze!
 
Discussion starter · #29 ·
I meant to comment again on the safety: While the light action of the safety doesn't work for me during pocket carry, others find that it is just what they want in a safety. I'm o.k. with it once drawn from the holster. I really like the CSX, especially with the pinky extensions I make for it (shameless plug!) If I didn't already have one, after going through this thread, I would buy one and get the the Pocket Locker as that combo suits my needs and addresses my concerns during pocket carry.