So i been looking at model 29 and thanks to this forum found out about p&r models and what makes newer models diff. Pardon my stupidity but can some one please explain whats the diff between 29-2 and 629 and 629 no dash? and whats is this "no dash" business?
ultra12
Hi Ultra:
A Model 29 is the .44 Magnum, N Frame, made of carbon steel and comes in blued or nickle finish. The Model 629 is the stainless steel counterpart.
The "dashes" are engineering revisions (certain changes in the manufacturing processes and the product). No dash or early low dashes are generally more desirable to the collector (or afficianado).
Hope that answers your questions.
Regards,
Geezer
A Model 29 is the .44 Magnum, N Frame, made of carbon steel and comes in blued or nickle finish. The Model 629 is the stainless steel counterpart.
The "dashes" are engineering revisions (certain changes in the manufacturing processes and the product). No dash or early low dashes are generally more desirable to the collector (or afficianado).
Hope that answers your questions.
Regards,
Geezer
I'm quite possibly the lowest on the S&W brainpower scale here but I'll bite to help you out. The "dash" is just the engineering change number. The first run of a model will be the "no dash", then they change somthing and add a "dash 1", as in 29-1, or 629-1 . When they eliminated the pinned and recessed features on the Model 29, that ended the 29-2 and started the 29-3 era.
As for the 629, I believe the 629 "no dash" was the only model with pinned barrel/recessed chamber features . They were eliminated when the 629-1 came out a few years later.
IMHO for your first Smith I wouldn't get too caught up in the p&r, "no dash", and all the other hype (like we all do
)
If you find a tight gun with a good action you'll be set for a long time, no matter what dash it is. You'll have plenty of time to start collecting the real goodies when your hooked.
As for the 629, I believe the 629 "no dash" was the only model with pinned barrel/recessed chamber features . They were eliminated when the 629-1 came out a few years later.
IMHO for your first Smith I wouldn't get too caught up in the p&r, "no dash", and all the other hype (like we all do
) If you find a tight gun with a good action you'll be set for a long time, no matter what dash it is. You'll have plenty of time to start collecting the real goodies when your hooked.
Greetings, this is my first post. I am a S&W P/R fan as most are I suppose. My question is on the 629 no dash 4in. I just bought one that is a no dash that is recessed but not pinned. As recommended I have bought the S&W third addition....an absolute must have.... but the transition period (which I'm assuming this is) is not covered as far as production/rarity. Does anyone have some input on this? What is another suggestion on a S&W book?
welcome -
we know s&w used up the old parts and phased in new ones.. also, that sometimes one line was running new parts, while the next one old.
the scsw often gives a "date" , but that's usually an end view - by this date the cutover was complete, when it actually started earlier..
as far as p&r, I have seen a number of guns that had only had one or the other - primarily it is recessed cyls but not pinned barrels..
I don't think enthusiasts (yet, at least) attach much significance to the p&r transitional versions ..
we know s&w used up the old parts and phased in new ones.. also, that sometimes one line was running new parts, while the next one old.
the scsw often gives a "date" , but that's usually an end view - by this date the cutover was complete, when it actually started earlier..
as far as p&r, I have seen a number of guns that had only had one or the other - primarily it is recessed cyls but not pinned barrels..
I don't think enthusiasts (yet, at least) attach much significance to the p&r transitional versions ..
Figuring out model #'s relative to S&W can be a real trip. As an example, I own a 645......so marked..........that has a 2nd model slide.........bought the thing that way NIB. Obviously, Smith has or had very little problem in mixing generational parts till they were used up I guess. Sent it back to S&W as that damn screw that held the right safety lever kept falling out and requested the new style.........Smith did that, but they also installed the 3rd gen. action............no complaint as the geometry is far superior to the first model but it does go to show just how complex dating their products can be!
And by the way, my 629 is a pinned/recessed model.....made in about '80.....never saw one less a mod number that wasn't pinned but my example of the 645 is sorta indicative of what can occur. Incidentally, I have only seen two other examples of that 645 variant and both were in the PD that I worked for at that time, both of those were purchased thru the same dealership near in time to each other.
And by the way, my 629 is a pinned/recessed model.....made in about '80.....never saw one less a mod number that wasn't pinned but my example of the 645 is sorta indicative of what can occur. Incidentally, I have only seen two other examples of that 645 variant and both were in the PD that I worked for at that time, both of those were purchased thru the same dealership near in time to each other.
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