[WGlide90]

Hi Guys,

I like the Remington Soft Point 240 gn ammo for my 629s. They seem to shoot more accurately than other ammo i've tried. I have not shot a lot of Winchester 240 gn Soft Point but it is sure a lot less expensive than the Remington ammo.

Is there any diff in quality or other between these rounds?

I'll retry Winchester to see if it will be as accurrate as the Remington ammo.

I have a few older rounds of the Winchester and will check it, but I'm going to get some new and check it as well.

I'm also thinking of going down to 180 gn of the Winchester to see how that works. The muzzle velosity and force is better than the 240. Again it is less expensive than many other brands.

Any thoughts?

WGlide

 

[onenut58]

I was thinking about trying some of that cabelas bulk ammo I read some reviews on it and its supposed to be pretty good.Its not super cheap but cheaper than the winchester I been shooting.They have it in 357 to and a few other calibers.I need to get off my hieny and start reloading. That seems to be the only alternative to the soaring price of ammo.

 

[xtimberman]

This is my thought:

Nearly all .44 Mag. shooters handload their own ammo. Besides the fact that you can customize the load to suit your gun and the type of shooting you want to do, you can fire a whole lot more ammo for what a box or two of factory stuff costs - thus increasing your shooting pleasure. 44 Mag ammo is expensive, so payout on your reloading gear is much quicker than it is when figuring payout on reloading 9mm or even .45acp.

As long as you have a supply of components, you can assemble your own - rather than depending on dwindling supply and selection in the stores.

Besides, I have a higher level of confidence in my own reloads than I do in any factory round. That is one of the few benefits of being slightly OCD! As far a bulk ammo goes, I will never fire anyone elses handloads or a single round of mass-produced reloaded ammo in any of my guns unless I can assure myself that their quality assurance is practically 100% - which is unlikely. The Gun Show dealers' and Cabela's salesman's glowing accolades of the QC on their reloaded ammo is still unconvincing to me. JMO.

xtm

 

[WGlide90]

Hi Nut and xtm,

Thanks for the responses.

I'm rather picky about what I shoot, I've learned over time to get the best I can. Through my days of ammo trials I have tried some factory reloads or simialr and have had very bad experiences.

One time I was taking a new M29 out to sight in, I used a factory reload I put 6 in and fired on the 6th nothing happened, or so I thought. I said WT...? then tried to open cyl to get the misfired round out and I couldn't open cyl. I it was very unsettling thinking I had a live round in there that I couldn't get out.

I drove back to the shop I bought the ammo and complained and he said that there was probably no powder in case and primer popped the lead out enough to be in cyl and barrel at same time. He stuck rod down the barrel and tapped it back in. I was not happy at all and very upset. I'll never buy reload again.

I have settled on Remington 240 soft point (Not any UMC stuff) due to the hitting power, accuracy and quality. It groups very well at long distances and takes down WhiteTails.

It is so expencive now, I actually have not bought any new Remington lately and can't even find the 240 SP most of the time. What I do see is this Rem UMC stuff what is that? I'm not too sure about it.

Anyone know about the UMC stuff? Maybe some day I'll get it together to reload myself.

But for now I don't know what to buy. I'll probably try the Win 240 JSP or 180 JSP. It's about 1/2 the $ Rem now if I can get it. That is why I wonder why it is cheaper.

Dave

 

[Geoff40]

I prefer the Winchester stuff, I think it is more consistent from lot to lot. I like their brass too, so I often buy a box or 2 to add cases to my reloading brass.

 

[longarm]

WGlide90,
I put a lot of Remington, Winchester, UMC, and PMC ammo through my 629-2 Classic Hunter and found none of them to be anywhere close to the accuracy of Federal 300gr Castcore Hunting ammo. Yes it is expensive.. but then I don't use it for plinking. The other, cheaper ammo is fine for that. I have my 629 sighted in for the Federal ammo and that won't change until I settle on a handload that is more accurate at 50 - 100 yards.
Dan

 

[WGlide90]

Hey Dan and Geoff,

I've never tried the Federal or anything over 240 in my 629-1 Classic Hunter since it doesn't have the upgrades as yours Dan. I would try 300 loads in my later ones. I'm similar to you in that I really don't plink and once it's sighted in thats the ammo I always use since I set up to hunt out to 100 yds.

So, Dan what is the history/story of the UMC Remington stuff. All Remington I'm used to is just Remington, where the "UMC" come from. Is it same quality as "Remington"?

Geoff, as far as the Winchester, I think I'm going to work with that for now. It's more available around my parts and at reasonable prices. The Remington rounds I like, are not around anywhere.

I also will want to try to use mostly same loads in all my 44s to make things more consistant. I have some rounds for home protection that I wouldn't use hunting.

Dave

 

[longarm]

Dave,
Sorry to say I can't enlighten re: UMC and Remington ammo history. I'm sure there are those on this forum who can though and we'll both wait for them to chime in.
Before responding to your previous post I took a look at a bunch of targets I had set up at 50 yards from the bag rested 629-2. On them I had recorded the best I could do with the above ammo through a couple of boxes of each on multiple trips to the range. As I mentioned the Federal Castcore really stood out. Targets with the Federal were very tight compared to the other brands.
Just one gun.. just one guy.. but it's something.

 

[xtimberman]

The yellow box UMC ammo is Remington's lower-priced offering - just like WWB (Winchester White Box) is Winchester's lower-priced promotional ammunition.

The Union Metallic Cartridge Co. (UMC) was established in 1867. Remington combined with them in 1912 and the company became Remington U.M.C.

They also bought out the Peters Cartridge Co. in 1934, and alternately marketed their ammunition under both names. The premium ammo was REM-UMC stamped and the lower-priced stuff was stamped R-P. Some time in the early 1990s, they started marketing the promotional line as UMC - sold in the old timey-looking plain yellow box - strictly advertising and promotional marketing.

xtm

 

[WGlide90]

OK. Great info on the UMC.

So, when I did my tests for my shooting style, my final two choices were the Win 240 JSP v the 240 SP Rem (Non UMC). I always felt the Rem was a step above the Win in accuracy and punch. That is why I settled on Rem for my "Go-To" 629.

Dan, I did the same with my 50yd targets and I had the best in the Rem 240 on my 629-1. I may try Federal 300 in my 629-4 PC Master Hunter scoped 7.5" brl.

I had a source at a regular gun show that was giving me very good prices on the Rem, and he always made sure he had enough for me and my buddy. He doesn't get it now.

So anyway, I'll probably start looking for the next good fit round for me.

Thanks for all you're inputs guys.

Dave

 

[onenut58]

I didnt know the cabelas bulk stuff was reloaded.I suppose the you get what you pay for applies.I guess I will just stick with the winchester stuff for my plinking and get my uncle to reload me some hunting ammo.No powder in the case convinces me.I would also assume you could get inconsistant amounts of powder alsr one with to much.