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Why the big price increase in S&W revolvers?

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How come S&W revolvers got so expensive in the last few years? I'm seeing used Smiths selling for more than they sold for new.
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I have noticed this trend at gunshops. With older Smiths' being more popular than the new ones, at least around here, the gunshops want to cash in on this trend.

Awhile ago, I saw a NIB M-66-1 4", priced at $679. :eek: Let them keep their overpriced guns! I wanted it, but, I'm not willing to pay that price. I can get a new M-520, the modern equivalent for less money. If thats the way they want it......they can keep it!!! ;) Bob
insider said:
How come S&W revolvers got so expensive in the last few years? I'm seeing used Smiths selling for more than they sold for new.
I see cars doing the same thing,for about the same reason,, this one comes to mind

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Supply and demand. :)

Sometimes a mere barrel length variation will cause the price to jump or drop - depending on what the whim of collectors/accumulators is at the time.

Often, rarity takes a back seat to collector/accumulator whim, too.

Besides all that, the majority of S&W folks consider the older models superior in quality and workmanship to what is being offered-up now.
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xtimberman said:
Supply and demand. :)
Right.

Why did the prices go up? Because people started paying those higher prices.
.....and most likely, collecters in our group have helped to fuel the fire. We appreciate the older S&W products a lot more than the new models. We provide the demand, on a limited supply of guns...........so dealers respond with higher prices! :roll:

I buy guns to shoot, not for collecter value. Therefore, I refuse to pay the premium price for these guns. What it boils down to is.......I've already got what I need. Anything else that I might buy.......will be at my price....not theirs! ;) Needless to say...I don't buy many these days!!! :lol: Bob
The price is strictly based on supply and demand.
The new guns have locks, and few of us want a gun with a lock on it. So, the older models without the locks are highly desired and buyers are willing to pay a premium for guns without it. Also, like a classic car there are limited numbers of well made handguns any more. The best of them are in safes and showrooms of the collector.
The craftsmanship of the older "classic" S&W revolvers is better than any other handgun ever produced. Ask just about anybody that owns a S&W revolver how good is the trigger. You hear something like "It's the best trigger I've ever shot" or "There's no stacking, and it breaks like glass" or "Smooth as Silk"
Those attributes have a cash value.
The high quality of the triggers on the Smith's seriously reduce the extra money spent on custom trigger jobs, or regular gunsmithing services needed, to get the grittiness out of the trigger that many other brands so often have. It also reduces the lost time while your wheelgun is in the shop being worked on or repaired.
All in all our Smiths need less repair time then many other brands. It's uncommon to hear about one of their revolvers going out of time because of their attention to detail in the lockworks.
All the more reason to spend a bit more on a Smith, than on another gun of lesser value.

Currently a brand new 4" Barrel Model 57 revolver in Blued steel is listed at $1089
I just bought one, barely used, for $530 shipped to my FFL.
I'm certain it initially sold for much more than the $500 I paid for it, and somebody took a substantial loss. They sold or traded it to the gun shop, and were certainly paid much less than what I paid.
If you are careful, look closely at what you're looking for you should be able to do quite well.
If the gun is more than 10 years old or so I would expect the street price to be either where it was originally or slightly higher if it remains in 95% condition or better. But that price will be well below the current model pricing new from the factory.
So save up your money, be careful, and spend it wisely. You should be able to get one for a reasonable price based on current market conditions.
If you think S&W revolvers have increased in value too fast, take a look at the pricing of the Colt Police Positive, A Python or a Diamondback. they're well at the top of the list ofr value increases over what they cost initially.
I guess the bottom line is you get what you pay for, and always it costs more to get better quality.
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You think prices are high now? Think QE-1, QE-2, QE-3...QE-45 - that's quantitative easing for those of you who don't know. When you find yourself in a hole, the smart thing to do is to stop shoveling. That ain't happening, not at the FED. They're pushing money out the door like it was free, or something. So, today's prices are gonna be very cheap in a year or two or three. Wanna bet that the next Smith & Wesson revolver you buy two or three years down the road will be paid for with Chinese Yuan?
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The exremely optimistic pricing on the current production junk, is driving up the prices of the older good stuff. Regards 18DAI.
I've always had S&W revolvers since I was big enough to have my own handgun. In the last couple of years it hit me that the newer ones weren't near as good as the older ones.
For a while I quit buying S&W revolvers because they were no longer pinned and recessed.
Now they have that horrible lock on them.
When I finally got past my not pinned and recessed anger, I started getting a few more.
Then more, and then even more.
Maybe everyone else realizes the newer ones aren't the old S&Ws we grew up with and have started going after the older ones.
Regardess, like 18DAI said, the prices on new ones make the older ones look like a bargain.
Excellently put about it being supply and demand for older non lock revolvers as well as the costs of the newer models. I am shocked at so many of them and how that you can get older revolvers even cheaper.
The prices on old Smith's keep going up, however I still prefer them over the "new" ones they keep pumping out. As far as taking a price hit, there's no need to despair if you like the new stuff during these times. It's pretty much like buying a new car. The original owner takes the big "hit" when they walk out the door with it, and "used?" ones can be had for much, much less than MSRP. (Except for the "GOV.", they couldn't GIVE one of those away to me...).
I have a ways to go before obtaining all the revolvers I would like to own from out of the Smith & Wesson models produced prior to about 1980. I see no "new crop" Smith & Wesson revolvers in my future ... unless they are willing to begin making them like the ones I've always admired. Then I'll be happy to spend my money for new ones.

It's curious how marketing changes over time. Once Smith & Wesson sought handgun consumers like me and made their characteristic revolvers which had a lot of appeal. I bought new Smith & Wesson revolvers from time to time back then. Now the company doesn't appear to even want my business as they persist in producing revolvers with several attributes that I particularly don't want. I refuse to buy or own the new ones because of the influence that the older models have on me. The company's own product, made in former times, stands in condemnation of its current efforts. I can better afford quality guns now than I could in back in early adulthood but there's nothing in the catalog that appeals. Shame really.
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A lot of us feel the same, and prefer the older models. Me? I'll stick to what I have, keep them clean, and fix them, when they need it. Got my old M-67 into Smith, for repair, right now. That is....unless I find another oldie.....at a good price. Most likely.....it ain't gonna happen! Prices are increasing faster than my wallet. Bob
Because people like me, who 30 and 40 years ago, couldn't afford guns like Model 10's, 15, 19's and so on, even at the "low" prices they sold for in those days, CAN afford them today, and we're willing to pay the price to own something we've always wanted. "Back in the day" we settled for something less expensive. Now, we don't want to settle.

Releativly speaking those guns still cost less today than they did back then.
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Bob K said:
I have noticed this trend at gunshops. With older Smiths' being more popular than the new ones, at least around here, the gunshops want to cash in on this trend.

Awhile ago, I saw a NIB M-66-1 4", priced at $679. :eek: Let them keep their overpriced guns! I wanted it, but, I'm not willing to pay that price. I can get a new M-520, the modern equivalent for less money. If thats the way they want it......they can keep it!!! ;) Bob

Would rather have the old one, is better and looks twice as good.
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The only way a older smith would be worth more to me than new one would be unfired NIB. I have no issue with new production lock guns if built as designed,,, and function as such. The barrel bores are better on my new smiths than the ones I owned years ago bought new. And ,, honestly. I never liked the hammer firing pin. I much prefer to internal pin. The lock is tacky. But I've beat the snot out of my new 686+, shot way way hot mags out of it. And the lock stays were it is suppose to be. Took a proper trigger job like a duck to water and runs the reduced springs like they were made for it. :)
-i have a 629-1 and a 686-1 revolvers, both square but , the factory triggerjob was exellent
and they still are my favorites.
i dont need the new generation.
Yep . . . I should have bought this one 40 years ago when it was new, based on what I paid last year for this one! Then again, this pinned and recessed, serial numbered stocks-to-the-gun SUPER GORGEOUS vintage Model 27-2 was still less than that fugly crap they are putting out today!

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Tom Turner said:
Yep . . . I should have bought this one 40 years ago when it was new, based on what I paid last year for this one! Then again, this pinned and recessed, serial numbered stocks-to-the-gun SUPER GORGEOUS vintage Model 27-2 was still less than that fugly crap they are putting out today!

Could not have said it better myself, I don't even own one with MIM parts let alone a model with the keyhole of treachery. Picked up a really nice 57 6" NICKEL with TT,TH,WO,RR and correct football Target stocks for 575 2 weeks ago. Crapola ,you can't even get one of their current pocket rockets for that :roll: bobw
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