This is stupid!!!!!!!

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LeMat

Discussion Starter · Mar 13, 2009

Today I have verified that there is not one retailer in Flathead County, MT that has a single box of 9mm!!! :x

This is beyond stupid. You're telling me that I have to drive almost 200 miles to get a box of 9mm?!?!?! :x

Virtually every store had the same story. First it was a laugh when I asked if they had any. Then it was "every time we get it in, it gets bought up by the case. Sometimes only a couple guys will buy the entire pallet. Usually gone the same day it comes in."

OK, first - who's the wise acre who's telling these guys that you just got your ammo in? Secondly, ration it!!! Because a couple of pooheads feel it necessary to stockpile it and then advertise it for sale in the Mountain Trader for twice the price.................

These jerks will no longer get my business and I will do my best to find out who these "coupla guys" are and TP their house! :lol:

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DHENRY

· #2 · Mar 13, 2009

LeMat,
Like Klinton used to say, "Ah feel yer pain".
I do know that production is strained to capacity now, and we probably have ourselves to blame for hoarding huge amounts of ammunition.
Remember also that the 'everyman, NATO, gangbanger', 9MM is popular beyond reasonable belief.
Of ALL the calibers I wouldn't expect to be short, that's the one.
I think I shared my experience on the 'out-of-stock-backorder' status of the lowly .38 special wadcutter (!)
Strange days indeed... l;gmna;
Don

Sebago Son

· #3 · Mar 13, 2009

Pretty good reason to buy on-line I guess, but supply, even on a national basis is spotty.

Here's a headstart on your hunt....

http://georgia-arms.com/index.aspx

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/

http://www.natchezss.com/

http://www.the-armory.com/shopsite_sc/s ... _ammo.html

Good Luck!

Drew

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G

· #4 · Mar 13, 2009

When I hear multiple gun show sellers are ordering 100,000 primers at a time, you know where the supplies are going. We are doing it to ourselves.

toroflow

· #5 · Mar 13, 2009

RELOAD!

LeMat

Discussion Starter · #6 · Mar 13, 2009

I would, but I can't find any primers! :lol:

Also, every place that sells bulk bullets no longer does so - they ain't got any.

I have to go to Montana Gold and buy seconds if I want anything bulk anymore - and that's if they have any around.

And lead? Forget it - nada to be found. :x

It's disturbing that this used to be so easy only a few short months ago......... :shock:

xtimberman

· #7 · Mar 13, 2009

Until just a few years ago, I could buy factory 9mm ammo as cheap as or cheaper than I could reload it! I would find CCI Blazer on sale at Academy Sports for $3.95 a box and sometimes Egyptian or other foreign milsurp stuff for $2.95 a box. Now, all I see is $9-10/box, sometimes more, for the very cheapest stuff for 9mm - but only on the rare occasions when it's available!

When the price tipped over my cost balance point, I started reloading this cartridge and found it to be one of the least finicky of any autopistol round I've dealt with. C.O.A.L. and chamber dimensions for 9mm Para. have been standardized for 100 years now, so stick with those numbers and you're good-to-go. Because it is so reloader friendly, I can crank out 9mm faster than anything else on my RCBS progressive.

I posted this on the reloading subforum because it seems to be the best deal for 9mm jacketed or plated out there. I'm posting it again. Shipping is included:
http://www.tjconevera.com/9mm-115gr-ful ... 51000.html

xtm

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Hunter

· #8 · Mar 13, 2009

Well, I am not having a problem getting ammo. I may have to go to a few different stores, but I am finding 38s, 9mm in Wally World. It's the bulk 22s that seem to be flying off of the shelves around here.

dennis40xnc

· #9 · Mar 13, 2009

Yesterday morning I went to Wal-Mart for the weekly grocery shopping event. They had Blazer 9mmLuger. Yesterday evening the spouse wanted to go to Target and Home Depot. We ended up at Wal-Mart also. Went back to the sporting department the Blazer 9mmLuger was gone. I asked the counter person what was going on. Their explanation was panic buying and resale by individuals or dealers.

I went thru the primer shortage of the mid nineteen nineties. My observation is there are individuals still using primers purchased then. One only has to remember the so called assault weapons band when full capacity magazines prices went thru the roof along with other sorted items. Let us not forget what Dirty Harry did to the availability of S&W M-29’s.

I recently ordered from Powder Valley some W231 and AutoComp powders. Their prices are lower than the local dealers in my area. Placed an order with Precision Bullets their back order time is 6 to 7 weeks for the style bullet I like. They haven’t increased prices either. Remember these things when we get thru the current crisis. Also remember the dealers that took advantage of the situation.

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Sebago Son

· #10 · Mar 13, 2009

dennis40xnc said:
"...I went thru the primer shortage of the mid nineteen nineties. My observation is there are individuals still using primers purchased then.....

Yeah, I'm one of them..... :?

I've still got thousands of the old, tiny CCI trays from before the HAZMAT mandated change to the larger packages..... just now using up the last of my Federal 100 & 150 pistol primers and had to replenish....

Drew

LeMat

Discussion Starter · #11 · Mar 13, 2009

Yesterday at Walmart, they had one box of 30-06 and 4 boxes of 22LR. Some 12ga as well, but as far as rifle/pistol, 5 boxes - that's it.

Jamn 44

· #12 · Mar 14, 2009

I went to the range a couple of weeks ago and went in a Wal-mart to pick up some 9mm. The clerk said the whole district received one case they had to share between stores. Basically one box per store. The good news is today I stopped by Academy Sports and Outdoors and they had no other handgun ammo besides 9mm. They had every type of 9mm, no other larger calibers. They had some 22's and all kinds of rifle ammo. The gentleman in front of me spent $100 on .223 made by monarch. You almost need to check everyday. Yes it is stupid.

onenut58

· #13 · Mar 16, 2009

I walked into a hardware store in winnemucca nevada last week and they have a nice little guns and ammo sales area. There ammunition shelves were packed to the brim with all kinds of rifle and pistol ammo.I also went into a small hard ware store in battle mountain nevada and the guy had a nice selection of both rifle and pistol ammo.The local walmart here in pahrump nevada seems to still have a decent selection of ammo although they didnt carry a lot of popular calibers before the rush on ammo. They still have what they used to.
You can still pick up 9mm 40, 45,44 mag and 357 mag and a number of rifle calibers and they keep a big pile of bulk 22 in remington and federal and have plenty of popular name brand 22 long and magnums.
I guess it depends on where you live and what the population is and all that.

toroflow

· #14 · Mar 16, 2009

onenut58 said:
I walked into a hardware store in winnemucca nevada last week and they have a nice little guns and ammo sales area. There ammunition shelves were packed to the brim with all kinds of rifle and pistol ammo.I also went into a small hard ware store in battle mountain nevada and the guy had a nice selection of both rifle and pistol ammo.The local walmart here in pahrump nevada seems to still have a decent selection of ammo although they didnt carry a lot of popular calibers before the rush on ammo. They still have what they used to.
You can still pick up 9mm 40, 45,44 mag and 357 mag and a number of rifle calibers and they keep a big pile of bulk 22 in remington and federal and have plenty of popular name brand 22 long and magnums.
I guess it depends on where you live and what the population is and all that.

Now you've done it onenut!! Now there will be a rush to the Pahrump Wal-Mart to buy out all their ammo!! :lol:

onenut58

· #15 · Mar 18, 2009

Lemat
Do you ever make a road trip over into Idaho? The reason I ask is in CouerDAlene there is a place called the black sheep.They always have huge inventories of ammo. They keep the shelves bulging and stack it in the isles sometimes.Huge inventories of guns to.
There is also a cabellas there but black sheep beats there prices on every thing and a couple of other large sporting goods stores also.

http://www.blacksheepidaho.com/index.html.

onenut58

· #16 · Mar 18, 2009

Toroflow
Pahrump is a small town and thats probably why there is still ammo here.So is winnemucca in northern nevada.Battle mountain where I have been working was called the armpit of the usa by the washington post not long ago. And believe me the description fits it well.
I just happen to be in a area where the rush on ammo isnt affected to bad.I know for a while the cowboy shooters around here were having a hard time finding 45 long ammo of all things.But the shelves were pretty well stocked with 9mm 40 cal 45 acp 223 etc.But in this area there are a lot of survivalists ,malitia and varmit hunters who pretty much stay stocked up most of the time.
There is nine gun stores in a pretty small town also so supply and demand isnt to bad.

m58

· #17 · Mar 18, 2009

onenut58,
Pahrump, Nv. is also the home of the world famous "Chicken Ranch" as well as the equally famous "Front Sight" firearms training school. ps Never been to either, however I did see the movie!

LeMat

Discussion Starter · #18 · Mar 18, 2009

onenut58 said:
Lemat
Do you ever make a road trip over into Idaho? The reason I ask is in CouerDAlene there is a place called the black sheep.They always have huge inventories of ammo. They keep the shelves bulging and stack it in the isles sometimes.Huge inventories of guns to.

I actually lived there for a few years in the mid '90's and worked with the Post Falls PD for a while (our station was in the old laundry mat.

). My wife and I haven't been there in a couple of years, but that might be worth a road trip.

That place sure has changed!

onenut58

· #19 · Mar 18, 2009

Yep pahrump has the chicken ranch and there is another butt hut down the road about thirty miles in crystal.Front sight isnt in pahrump though. They have a facility out in the desert located between vegas and pahrump.

onenut58

· #20 · Mar 18, 2009

Lemat I lived in post falls for a while in the nineties also.I lived in sight of the flying J truck stop.I worked for kc construction and and drove log truck for Don brown logging for a while also.I cant make a lving up there or I would have never left.I almost moved to Troy a few months ago. A guy I went to school with runs the asarco mine there.I spent a good part of my life hunting and fishing in montana since I grew up on the border.
Have you been into the Bob Marshall yet?If you go into it at pyrimid peak its a 70 mile hike. Its about twenty miles over the range until you drop down on the flathead river. From there the trail follows the river out and drops you at the ranger station.I have never seen any better fishing for cutthroat.Virtualy every cast you snag a cut. I used a muddler minno and it worked any place at any time I cast it in the river.One of my friends used a mepps spiner with a tail on a little unltra light out fit and was nailing the cuts good to.
It has the largest concentration of griz bears in the lower forty eight though and also a large number of wolverines and cats. It is a designated wilderness area and not a park so you can pack your magnum or shot gun with you.There was a outfitter that was set up by the ranger station who would pack people in by mule half way.He would unload rubber rafts and you could drift out on the river.
The forest service maintains the trails fairly well but it can be a chore to find the trail at times and you dont want to go until the end of july or so because you have to cross the flat head a few times and even in low water it comes up to your armpits at some crossings and flows pretty hard.The trail goes up away from the river in places and crosses cliffs in some places and goes right along the river banks in other places and crosses valleys in others.

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