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Colin Greenwood recently passed away. Thanks to Colin, we have a window into the future!

https://www.ammoland.com/2017/12/education-surprisingly-united-kingdom/

Just who is Colin Greenwood? He's the officer of the Yorkshire Constabulary in the UK that wrote the cautionary study on failure of "Gun Control".

If ever there was someone that could predict the future - in great detail - it was Colin. In 1972, he predicted the slippery slope of compromise and ultimate failure of trying to eliminate firearms from a Western society.

This link will take you to a PDF of the study. It's worth having and reading. It's especially worth sharing with younger people that might be willing to compromise with progressive liars on core issues of self protection:

https://www.hoplofobia.info/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Greenwood.pdf
 

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This way, to the ovens ...........

Hey S&W,

Yep...
 

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There is NO compromise on Gun Control laws! jmho gun control has never worked! it's a people problem! jmho
California is a shinning example of gun owners letting the legislative camel's nose under the tent flap.... from indifference/apathy/compromise... trusting what the anti's say.

We had the opportunity to get an initiative placed on the ballot to nullify anti-gun bills that were passed into law. With an estimated 7,829,170 gun owners here, it couldn't be pulled off.. only 1/3 of the needed signature were obtained before the deadline.
 

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So, with a sterling example of what actually happens when you tolerate gun rights infringement well documented in a country with controlled borders (the United Kingdom) and a state within the USA (California), understand that today we already have over 22,000 constitution violating gun control laws in the USA.

Why would we ever stand for even one more small step on the way to the progressive's ideal (complete confiscation of lawful citizen firearms, and uniform exposure to criminal violence = all in the name of political correctness)...

Gun control advocates are obsessed with power and control, and often mentally ill. Some have been affected by being or knowing victims of violence and they don't understand that the problem isn't the lawful citizens that they completely mistrust. Many foolishly place their trust in liars, politicians and distant millionaires that worry only about their own power.

Regardless of what they say or do, gun control advocates want one thing only. That prohibition of firearms would not make the United States a better place to live, and could - in fact - destroy our system and our freedom.
 

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Anytime I see compromise mentioned I call BS. Compromise means both sides get something they want. Pro gun side never gets anything. To the anti gun side compromise means they get whatever they want with the possibility that they will go away, BUT they will always be back in a short time with another demand or demands. Fight every step of the way anything else is sell out and surrender no matter how you dress it up.
 

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The left will stop at nothing to try and take our rights and freedom away so that they will be further empowered to control our lives. The battle lives on. Fight back and fight hard!!!!
 

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The left will stop at nothing to try and take our rights and freedom away so that they will be further empowered to control our lives. The battle lives on. Fight back and fight hard!!!!
Hey Paul,

This is exactly what IRKS me most, about the current crop of RINO's!

It has been a year. The Patriot Act, GCA '68 and the NFA '34...............are still on the books!

Will be interesting to see how the "Concealed Carry Bill" goes through??

Then will be real interesting to see how it applies to: New Jerzistan, New Yorkiztan, People's Commonwealth of Mass., Commicutztan....KookieKallyZtan (aka Kommifornia)....

I really want to attend the WALLS OF STEEL MATCH in Rhode Island. Do not want to chance a FELONY CONVICTION by traversing NEW YORKIZTAN with firearms and (heaven forbid) AMMO with MAGAZINES in my automobile!

The BLAME FOOL RINO's have not done a single fool thing, so far....

The "D's" are KraZy. The "R's" are too "comfy" COMPROMISING with the KraZed "D's"........have forgot all about the folk (US) who put them in office!

Rant over.

Carry on!

Later, Mark
 
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Hey Paul,

This is exactly what IRKS me most, about the current crop of RINO's!

It has been a year. The Patriot Act, GCA '68 and the NFA '34...............are still on the books!

Will be interesting to see how the "Concealed Carry Bill" goes through??

Then will be real interesting to see how it applies to: New Jerzistan, New Yorkiztan, People's Commonwealth of Mass., Commicutztan....KookieKallyZtan (aka Kommifornia)....

I really want to attend the WALLS OF STEEL MATCH in Rhode Island. Do not want to chance a FELONY CONVICTION by traversing NEW YORKIZTAN with firearms and (heaven forbid) AMMO with MAGAZINES in my automobile!

The BLAME FOOL RINO's have not done a single fool thing, so far....

The "D's" are KraZy. The "R's" are too "comfy" COMPROMISING with the KraZed "D's"........have forgot all about the folk (US) who put them in office!

Rant over.

Carry on!

Later, Mark
THIS is the problem! Progressive Globalists (formerly the democrat party), are RELENTLESS in dismantling the Second Amendment, REINTERPRETING it to be a LIMITED "ALLOWANCE" of LOW CAPACITY SPORTING ARMS while EXEMPTING their active and retired enforcement agents of all restrictions. Setting up THE EXACT SITUATION THE SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTS AGAINST - a vulnerable citizenry helpless to the rule of a powerful totalitarian regime. Everywhere progressives have enough of a majority at the state and local level of government - THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS EFFECTIVELY REPEALED!

At the same time - REPUBLICANS - go along as if the issue is NON-EXISTANT! NO PROBLEM - DON'T TOUCH THE ISSUE - with the house - senate - white house - and supreme court - NOTHING!

My republican congressman PETE KING - is a true fascist - HE wants a militarized federal homeland security army within our borders (And believe it or not - a sidearm on a recruiter is in violation of posse comitatus - HOMELAND SECURITY - THE NEW FIFTH BRANCH OF THE MILITARY - NO PROBLEM!) - and a militarized police presence on our streets - and an unarmed citizenry!

His name is on the new anti-bumpstock bill that is worded to OUTLAW SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLES - TURN EM' IN AMERICA - but NOT on HR 38!

The supreme court is determining a bakers right to not bake for a gay wedding - BUT REFUSES TO TAKE UP PROGRESSIVE DESTRUCTION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

WE NEED A POLITICAL PARTY THAT AGGRESSIVELY STRENGTHENS OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS EVERY BIT AS RELENTLESSLY AS PROGRESSIVES AGGRESSIVELY SUBVERT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT!

It's just not happening at all - end result - not a day goes by that the globalist agenda of disarming American citizens is not taking a piece of the Second Amendment one way or another, in one location or another - we're being pushed down the one way staircase of citizen disarmament - one step at a time.

NOBODY IS PUSHING BACK!
 

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THIS is the problem! Progressive Globalists (formerly the democrat party), are RELENTLESS in dismantling the Second Amendment, REINTERPRETING it to be a LIMITED "ALLOWANCE" of LOW CAPACITY SPORTING ARMS while EXEMPTING their active and retired enforcement agents of all restrictions. Setting up THE EXACT SITUATION THE SECOND AMENDMENT PROTECTS AGAINST - a vulnerable citizenry helpless to the rule of a powerful totalitarian regime. Everywhere progressives have enough of a majority at the state and local level of government - THE SECOND AMENDMENT IS EFFECTIVELY REPEALED!

At the same time - REPUBLICANS - go along as if the issue is NON-EXISTANT! NO PROBLEM - DON'T TOUCH THE ISSUE - with the house - senate - white house - and supreme court - NOTHING!

My republican congressman PETE KING - is a true fascist - HE wants a militarized federal homeland security army within our borders (And believe it or not - a sidearm on a recruiter is in violation of posse comitatus - HOMELAND SECURITY - THE NEW FIFTH BRANCH OF THE MILITARY - NO PROBLEM!) - and a militarized police presence on our streets - and an unarmed citizenry!

His name is on the new anti-bumpstock bill that is worded to OUTLAW SEMI-AUTOMATIC RIFLES - TURN EM' IN AMERICA - but NOT on HR 38!

The supreme court is determining a bakers right to not bake for a gay wedding - BUT REFUSES TO TAKE UP PROGRESSIVE DESTRUCTION OF THE SECOND AMENDMENT!

WE NEED A POLITICAL PARTY THAT AGGRESSIVELY STRENGTHENS OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHTS EVERY BIT AS RELENTLESSLY AS PROGRESSIVES AGGRESSIVELY SUBVERT OUR SECOND AMENDMENT RIGHT!

It's just not happening at all - end result - not a day goes by that the globalist agenda of disarming American citizens is not taking a piece of the Second Amendment one way or another, in one location or another - we're being pushed down the one way staircase of citizen disarmament - one step at a time.

NOBODY IS PUSHING BACK!
Hey K,

Well said!

When they (Rino slime balls) campaign for an office, they are all about the 2nd Amendment.

Once "in office"..........they forget all about it...(might interfere with the big, fat, juicy BRIBES that are coming in by the truck load)

Get a load of Sen. Toomey (PA)...what a piece of...........(can't say it here).............self serving KrAp!!

Later, Mark
 
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