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Hi, I installed a Taran tactical base pad about 3 months ago on my Shield 9 and I just noticed the other day my gun was making a rattling noise with my safety off so I field stripped it and I noticed my ejector wiggles back and forth a little. I put a magazine in it with my Taran tactical base plate installed and I noticed the bullet is actually making contact with my ejector. I tried this out on my other OEM magazines from factory and they do not touch the ejector. Has anyone else had this problem, is it common or am I just having a bad experience with mine? I also seen a video saying that if you remove the sleeve from the OEM 8 round magazines if will actually contact the ejector too. One more thing I forgot to add is that the Taran tactical base pad is able to be pushed up slightly and that's when it allows the bullet to make contact with the ejector, is there anyway to fix this? Thank you and God bless! God loves you and have a good day!
 

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Hi, I installed a Taran tactical base pad about 3 months ago on my Shield 9 and I just noticed the other day my gun was making a rattling noise with my safety off so I field stripped it and I noticed my ejector wiggles back and forth a little. I put a magazine in it with my Taran tactical base plate installed and I noticed the bullet is actually making contact with my ejector. I tried this out on my other OEM magazines from factory and they do not touch the ejector. Has anyone else had this problem, is it common or am I just having a bad experience with mine? I also seen a video saying that if you remove the sleeve from the OEM 8 round magazines if will actually contact the ejector too. One more thing I forgot to add is that the Taran tactical base pad is able to be pushed up slightly and that's when it allows the bullet to make contact with the ejector, is there anyway to fix this? Thank you and God bless! God loves you and have a good day!
Welcome to the forum. I have no experience with Taran Tactical baseplates, but I would contact them with your concerns. They are likely to know if this is normal or not. Best of luck finding an answer
 

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One thing I'm noticing with aftermarket mags and that is the build quality is lacking. Had to fix my buddy's magazines for his black gun as the feed lips were too tight and causing feeding issues. Little vice grip work cured that issue.
 

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Hi, I installed a Taran tactical base pad about 3 months ago on my Shield 9 and I just noticed the other day my gun was making a rattling noise with my safety off so I field stripped it and I noticed my ejector wiggles back and forth a little. I put a magazine in it with my Taran tactical base plate installed and I noticed the bullet is actually making contact with my ejector. I tried this out on my other OEM magazines from factory and they do not touch the ejector. Has anyone else had this problem, is it common or am I just having a bad experience with mine? I also seen a video saying that if you remove the sleeve from the OEM 8 round magazines if will actually contact the ejector too. One more thing I forgot to add is that the Taran tactical base pad is able to be pushed up slightly and that's when it allows the bullet to make contact with the ejector, is there anyway to fix this? Thank you and God bless! God loves you and have a good day!
I purchased a completed S&W Shield Mag from Taran Tactical with the base pad pre-installed. With my Shield 2.0 PC I've had zero issues and nothing is contacting the ejector. Taran is using an OEM S&W Shield Magazine, the OEM mag spring, and with their extension pad it holds 10rds.

In the package from Taran were instructions to do a variety of Kung-fu panda stuff with the Magazine before using it in order to ensure the spring was seated properly. This included holding the Magazine in one hand while firmly hitting it against the other, and when I did so, I heard the spring snap into place. Then, as per the instructions, I had to fill the mag half way and let it sit overnight... then fill it completely and also let that sit overnight. Once complete, I put 200 rds of various ammo through it and it's been flawless so far.

There was also a note about how their screw on the base pad has been tightened by a specific amount. Perhaps you've tightened yours too much?



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With my unmodified mags, and with my Taran mag, when I don't have a round chambered, if I press on the bottom of the Magazine, it will contact the ejector. If I do have a round chambered, it can not.

Notice the blemish on my ejector, it's taken a hard hit on the corner of something. No issues though.

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In both images, notice the gap between the mag and the handle. If a round is chambered, I can not press the mag up more to close the gap and with no round chambered, I can. On my Shield 2.0 PC, that gap is the difference between the lip of the mag touching the ejector or not.
 

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I purchased a completed S&W Shield Mag from Taran Tactical with the base pad pre-installed. With my Shield 2.0 PC I've had zero issues and nothing is contacting the ejector. Taran is using an OEM S&W Shield Magazine, the OEM mag spring, and with their extension pad it holds 10rds.

In the package from Taran were instructions to do a variety of Kung-fu panda stuff with the Magazine before using it in order to ensure the spring was seated properly. This included holding the Magazine in one hand while firmly hitting it against the other, and when I did so, I heard the spring snap into place. Then, as per the instructions, I had to fill the mag half way and let it sit overnight... then fill it completely and also let that sit overnight. Once complete, I put 200 rds of various ammo through it and it's been flawless so far.

There was also a note about how their screw on the base pad has been tightened by a specific amount. Perhaps you've tightened yours too much?



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With my unmodified mags, and with my Taran mag, when I don't have a round chambered, if I press on the bottom of the Magazine, it will contact the ejector. If I do have a round chambered, it can not.

Notice the blemish on my ejector, it's taken a hard hit on the corner of something. No issues though.

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In both images, notice the gap between the mag and the handle. If a round is chambered, I can not press the mag up more to close the gap and with no round chambered, I can. On my Shield 2.0 PC, that gap is the difference between the lip of the mag touching the ejector or not.
Thank you so much! I will double check everything!
 

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What is the benefit of using these aftermarket parts? To me the gun is 1, meant to be small, 2, meant to be reliable. Adding aftermarket non-OEM parts that make it bigger and less reliable are ones that I would cross off my list.
 
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I like the extra capacity.
At the expense of size and reliability? I carry a 1911 and they are more reliable with 7 round mags (that's what they were designed for). People mess around with them and use 8 or even 9 shot mags with them...I'd gladly trade 1 or 2 rounds for OEM reliability.
 

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At the expense of size and reliability?
The size part doesn't really bother me, (I can conceal carry a full size Glock quite easy (not as comfortable though)). Also the reliability aspect. I've never had any issues with failures to eject. I was just curious on if that was normal. From what I've been reading and my own personal experience they're quite good! But to each his own!
 

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The size part doesn't really bother me, (I can conceal carry a full size Glock quite easy (not as comfortable though)). Also the reliability aspect. I've never had any issues with failures to eject. I was just curious on if that was normal. From what I've been reading and my own personal experience they're quite good! But to each his own!
If it's beating on your ejector it will probably not be good over time...Definitely not normal. I've fit some ejectors in 1911s over the years and you definitely want clearance there or the part can break or cause your mag not to seat. To me, OEM is the way to go in a gun you trust with your life. Good luck getting it sorted out.
 

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What is the benefit of using these aftermarket parts? To me the gun is 1, meant to be small, 2, meant to be reliable. Adding aftermarket non-OEM parts that make it bigger and less reliable are ones that I would cross off my list.
I EDC my Shield bone stock, completely unmodified due to the exact reason you pointed out, reliability. With my spare mag EDC situation however I was having a problem and the aftermarket solution solved it.

  • I don't like the OEM 7rd mag. I can shoot it fine, but I just don't like the feel of the gun in my hand when my pinky is dangling. I always EDC with the OEM 8rd mag in the gun.
  • The OEM 8rd mags feel perfect in my hand and feels good on the draw stroke. Im more confident in my draw stroke when I can get all of my fingers on the firearm.
  • The OEM 8rd mag, as a spare mag, to me is undesirable because of the extension piece that slides. Because the OEM extension piece moves unpredictably, it can compromise a successful reload, thus (to me at least) the OEM 8rd mag as a spare mag, is unreliable. For that reason, I'd prefer the 7rd mag as a back up magazine over the 8rd mag, but its only 7rds and I don't like the feel of it.

The aluminum base pad from Taran Tactical is screwed into its position, which in turn gives me 100% confidence in the reliability of a mag reload under stress because it can not shift its position on the Magazine. This is the primary reason I purchased it.

As a bonus:
  • It holds 10rds instead of 8rds or 7rds
  • It's easier to grab out of my mag holder, which is a NeoMag that typically sits in my left pants pocket.

It seems that Hyve Technologies also makes a mag extension that's comparable to what Taran offers. I chose Taran's solution because they'll sell their's pre-installed on an OEM mag. That way if there's a problem, it's their fault and not mine. Plus I wanted another mag anyway.
 

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What is the benefit of using these aftermarket parts? To me the gun is 1, meant to be small, 2, meant to be reliable. Adding aftermarket non-OEM parts that make it bigger and less reliable are ones that I would cross off my list.
I never understood it either. The gun has x amount of capacity. Folks think they need more for extended fire fights or something. Why not just carry an extra magazine??
 

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I never understood it either. The gun has x amount of capacity. Folks think they need more for extended fire fights or something. Why not just carry an extra magazine??
As mentioned in my post above, I purchased the Taran Tactical extended mag plate on an OEM S&W mag, to be used as my spare mag, in order to resolve the issue of the OEM extension rubber piece shifting positions on the mag, which compromises mag reloading reliability. The Taran mag base plate is screwed into position which means it can not move and can not shift its position on the magazine.

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With the OEM mag on the left, in that condition, what will happen if I were to attempt a reload under stress? Well, in some instances the mag will fail to seat properly.

In my opinion, this is an aftermarket solution that's necessary, at least for my purposes.

Both Taran and Hyve offer this style base plate for the M&P Shield. If S&W offered the same solution, I'd have purchased that instead.
 

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I never understood it either. The gun has x amount of capacity. Folks think they need more for extended fire fights or something. Why not just carry an extra magazine??
Or get a gun that is actually built for a grown man's hands and doesn't have to have such micro machinery all jammed together because it's so tiny.

People think they need a gun the size of a tick tack but then want 15+1 capacity. :D. Those things seem to be at odds!
 
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Or get a gun that is actually built for a grown man's hands and doesn't have to have such micro machinery all jammed together because it's so tiny.

People think they need a gun the size of a tick tack but then want 15+1 capacity. :D. Those things seem to be at odds!
What you might not realize is that the S&W Shield (especially the Shield Plus) is a micro 9 that's built for a grown man's hands. A lot of guns in this size category are not shootable for many people who wear a medium/large glove or bigger. The size of the Shield maximizes concealability, especially for those of us who struggle to carry appendix due to a prior surgery for a massive hernia in that exact spot. Let's install a mesh in your groin area and fill you up with scar tissue, strap on an appendix rig, sit you down in a vehicle, and see how much you like it. So then with IWB @ 4 o'clock, the size profile of the Shield really shines.

As I've previously detailed in 2 replies in this thread, my purchase of the extended mag base plate from Taran was to correct the issue of the sliding rubber piece on OEM mags. I EDC the OEM 8rd in the gun and my 10rd Taran is my EDC spare mag because nothing on the base of the mag slides or moves. The added capacity was just a bonus.

To your point, if I were to EDC the 10rd Taran in the gun, it would negate a lot of the concealability advantages of the Shield platform.
 

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I never understood it either. The gun has x amount of capacity. Folks think they need more for extended fire fights or something. Why not just carry an extra magazine??
I carry an extra mag. I like the security of hey I got just 2 more bullets just in case. Also I prefer the extra grip space for my hand to fit a bit better.
 
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