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I bought two nice S&Ws on Sunday and Monday of this week from (would you believe?) Gander Mountain.

The first is one that I've been looking for for a long time - A minty (~100%) 6" Model 14-4 K-38 Target
Masterpiece
in single action only (which, according to the blue book is a $100 additional value), and it has target trigger and target hammer.

So here is a Pic of it after I did my usual total detail strip to inspect, clean and oil every single part (you can see that the hammer has no double action pawl):



And here she is all put back together and photographed in my home-made photo box:










The second is a 6" blued all original, barely ever shot (very mint and collectible condition of 99.9%) Model 586-3 .357 Distinguished Combat Magnum, which is another one I've been looking a long time for to go with my 4" Nickle 586-0.

Here is a Pic of it after I did my usual total detail strip to inspect, clean and oil:



And here it is again all put back together and checked out:





Hope you all enjoyed looking at them!

RonJon
 

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Wow! You sure do take them all apart! :eek:

I usually make sure the bore and cylinders are clean then go shoot 'em! ;)
 

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Very beautiful dark blueing. I'm with c pierce, it would be most helpful. I talked to one guy and he told me it would take me years of studying with a gunsmith to learn how to take them apart. Thanks for sharing both great guns. James
 

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Jamn 44 said:
.... I talked to one guy and he told me it would take me years of studying with a gunsmith to learn how to take them apart...... James
Not So James !....

They come apart pretty easily..... it's the reassembly that takes practice.... especially if you wan them to work when your done!.... :lol:

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c pierce said:
Ronjon I know that this is an imposition, would you please post a complete disassembly of a smith&wesson. :)
If I understand correctly, you are asking for a step by step instruction for dis-assembly and reassembly of a S&W revolver?

If so, I have to point you to Jerry Kuhnhausen's "THE S&W REVOLVER A Shop Manual" Published by VSP Publishers.

You will also need some professional grade tools for gunsmiths - I suggest the 89 piece gunsmith's screwdriver set (which has the special tools for several makes of firearms, including S&W revolvers) made by Wheeler engineering and available from Midway (about $100).

There is no way I could write you a posting here of everything you need to know - I literally spent hours using that book to 'hold my hand' as I worked on my Smith & Wesson revolvers until I did enough of them to do it without (usually) having to refer to the book. It's really easy once you get the hang of it - I think I now do a complete strip-down of a S&W revolver now in 10-15 minutes. Maybe 20- 25 to put it back together!

You might be able to get the book from several on-line gun book sellers. I got mine from Midway (but you may have to get on the used book list because I recently heard that it is out of print now).
Edit: I just checked Midway - Not listed there anymore, but Amazon has 2 new ones in stock:
http://www.amazon.com/Revolver-Shop-Manual-Covers-Actions/dp/B000MRFUWY/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1235710806&sr=1-3
(It's pricey now though ($89.97) probably because it's out of print and in high demand!)

I have Kuhnhausen's books also for Colt (2 volumes for revolvers, and 1 for the .45 autos); Ruger revolvers; US M1 Carbines; US M1 Garand and M14 .30 cal rifles; and Mauser bolt action rifles. I don't know what I'd do without them - They are truly the 'Bible' for gunsmithing!

Good luck!

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Those are some great additions to your collection! Congrats!
 

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Congrats
Two nice additions. One tool that makes it easier to take S&W revolvers apart is the Wessinger extractor rod tool. Not that hard to tear them apart. As far as the parts I just chuck them in a pile.Clean them up & put it back together. As far as screwdrivers. I make my own from old screwdrivers. I grind them to fit.
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I make my own from old screwdrivers. I grind them to fit.
I've tryed that, I make ice picks :roll:
Good post RonJon
 

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RonJon,

Great detailing jobs, and great photographs, too!

What's with the creepy portrait? I believe I saw you once in Sedona, AZ.... :lol:

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Absolutely Beautiful! ;)
 

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Jim said:
Congrats
Two nice additions. One tool that makes it easier to take S&W revolvers apart is the Wessinger extractor rod tool. Not that hard to tear them apart. As far as the parts I just chuck them in a pile.Clean them up & put it back together. As far as screwdrivers. I make my own from old screwdrivers. I grind them to fit.
Jim
I had one of those tools - It worked great until it formed a stress crack and fell apart.

Now I simply put most of the length of the ejector rod into a rubber padded vice while having 3 empty cartridge cases in the cylinder (to relieve the stress on the locating pins) and turn the cylinder to loosen the rod (remember - it's a left-handed thread! - Except in the very old S&Ws such as my 'Victory' model from WWII). This method works great in both dis-assembly and in reassembly. You must determine first if you have an older S&W whether it has the old right hand thread or the later left hand thread to prevent stripping it entirely (another reason to have the documentation!)

There are a lot of pitfalls within stripping a S&W that make the 'book' a necessity - From where the loaded springs are (to keep them from flying across the shop) to how to properly remove the side plate without destroying it. Also, removing and re-installing the rebound slide and it's spring is damn near impossible without the proper tool (included in the Wheeler Engineering set - or available separately from Brownell's).

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Beautiful! Congrats!

Now those ARE REAL classics. Too bad S&W doesn't get a clue. Regards 18DAI.
 

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xtimberman said:
RonJon,

Great detailing jobs, and great photographs, too!

What's with the creepy portrait? I believe I saw you once in Sedona, AZ.... :lol:

xtm
The portrait (my Avatar) is one I saw a few years ago in a magazine ad and scanned it to make my avatar. It depicts a 'face' made up of a superimposed man's chest.

I thought it offered a unique look, while retaining anonymity!

I use it across all the forums I'm on so that you can identify that it's me - the same guy. :)

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RonJon...Very nice photos of very nice S&Ws.

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Hey Doc - I made a few quick & dirty mods to my photo box and used the tips you gave me (curved white background, q-tip gun support, etc.)

So here is a sample of my first results using your ideas!





Am I getting closer? :geek:

RonJon
 
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