When I bought my 586 it came the really nice walnut target stocks. I love the way they look but they never really felt good in my hand. I decided to put on set of Hogue vinyl grips. Well those are about impossible to get on. I tore them up putting them on and could never get them to seat all the way. They ended up being stuck I actually had to carefully cut them off. I contacted Hogue told them of the situation they were very helpful and recommended the rubber grips. They sent me a new set of rubber grips. Really a first class operation. Those went on without a hitch. I really like the way they feel. I felt like I was shooting a different gun. Now, I really like the way it feels but not so much how it looks. It looks like my Glocks now. This isn't a carry piece but I do like being able to shoot all my guns well. I would invest in some Hogue wood grips if I new they would feel like the rubber grips. I'm not concerned so much with the difference between wood and rubber I just want them to be the same dimensionally. Does anyone have experience with the wood and rubber grips from Hogue?