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Thanks, as far as unattended, are you saying with a concealed carry license you can't have a gun locked up in a secure lockbox inside? I'm sure that depends on the state, but is that really the law everywhere? I get that the danger is a break in, or for even those secured in a said lockbox, the car being stolen. I apologize, I'm still learning the ropes here. I have been overly cautious so far out of respect for the firearms. I don't even keep my gun loaded at home for that reason.

Your original thread said you plan on leaving it you CAR

You should never leave a firearm in your CAR unattended

Say a neighborhood kids get in your car and shoots himself or others?? Or a break in by a real bad guy.?
I/we,can not advise you on your individual State Law

As to your house you need to know what your STATE laws are. Some States do not allow a gun left in the home unless it is locked up Some are very strict others not so much. But regardless the gun is your responsibility at all times.

Concealed Carry is carry on your person, not a permit to leave a gun lying around someplace,
 

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Oil based lubes frequently get stiff and coagulate and can jam a gun in cold temperatures.
If you use a dry lube, like Eezox, you have no such problems.

The problem with leaving guns in cars is that cars are often broken into, and guns are stolen. It is not such a problem that you no longer own a gun; the problem is that a felon now owns your gun after the theft, and the felon might use the gun wrong.
 

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Your original thread said you plan on leaving it you CAR

You should never leave a firearm in your CAR unattended

Say a neighborhood kids get in your car and shoots himself or others?? Or a break in by a real bad guy.?
I/we,can not advise you on your individual State Law

As to your house you need to know what your STATE laws are. Some States do not allow a gun left in the home unless it is locked up Some are very strict others not so much. But regardless the gun is your responsibility at all times.

Concealed Carry is carry on your person, not a permit to leave a gun lying around someplace,
Fair enough. What do you say though to the variety of people who leave a gun in their car? For example, some people have to do so when going into a job for the day, a courtroom, etc etc. I agree with your risk points, but I'm not sure everyone agrees that the answer is to never have a gun in your car. It seems as if many people do. According to my state law, from what I can tell, you are able to have a loaded gun in the car if you have a concealed carry permit, but not if you don't. It doesn't say anything about if you leave the car.
Some articles I found:
How Do You Leave Firearms In The Car Responsibly? - USA Carry
PA Rules for Transporting/Carrying Firearms | FICG (firearmsindustryconsultinggroup.com)
 

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Oil based lubes frequently get stiff and coagulate and can jam a gun in cold temperatures.
If you use a dry lube, like Eezox, you have no such problems.

The problem with leaving guns in cars is that cars are often broken into, and guns are stolen. It is not such a problem that you no longer own a gun; the problem is that a felon now owns your gun after the theft, and the felon might use the gun wrong.
That makes sense.
 

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Fair enough. What do you say though to the variety of people who leave a gun in their car? For example, some people have to do so when going into a job for the day, a courtroom, etc etc. I agree with your risk points, but I'm not sure everyone agrees that the answer is to never have a gun in your car. It seems as if many people do. According to my state law, from what I can tell, you are able to have a loaded gun in the car if you have a concealed carry permit, but not if you don't. It doesn't say anything about if you leave the car.
Some articles I found:
How Do You Leave Firearms In The Car Responsibly? - USA Carry
PA Rules for Transporting/Carrying Firearms | FICG (firearmsindustryconsultinggroup.com)
Generally speaking having a concealed permit means you can conceal a firearm in the car - as long as YOU are in the car. It is considered the same as concealing the firearm on your person. It does not give you legal permission to conceal a gun in the car and then leave. That doesn't mean that you can't legally do it, only that the concealed permit doesn't grant that permission.

Whether your state allows you to keep a gun locked in your UNATTENDED vehicle or not is a separate issue that also varies from state to state.

Regardless of legalities, I won't leave a gun locked in my car overnight. I used to keep one locked in a gun vault cabled to the seat frame of my car when I went into work. BUT, it was parked in our parking lot within 50 feet of the guard shack and was only there in broad daylight 90% of the time. I will also leave it locked in my gun vault for very short periods of time if I have to go into a school, courthouse, police station, post office, or federal building where carrying it is prohibited. BUT ONLY for short periods and even then I am VERY careful about where I park my car to make it as unattractive of a target as possible.

I also have no bumper stickers advertising the NRA, any gun brand, or anything else related to firearms on my vehicle. Those have the potential to attract attention from the wrong kind of people.
 
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Fair enough. What do you say though to the variety of people who leave a gun in their car? For example, some people have to do so when going into a job for the day, a courtroom, etc etc. I agree with your risk points, but I'm not sure everyone agrees that the answer is to never have a gun in your car. It seems as if many people do. According to my state law, from what I can tell, you are able to have a loaded gun in the car if you have a concealed carry permit, but not if you don't. It doesn't say anything about if you leave the car.
Some articles I found:
How Do You Leave Firearms In The Car Responsibly? - USA Carry
PA Rules for Transporting/Carrying Firearms | FICG (firearmsindustryconsultinggroup.com)
I feel that any place that denies a Concealed Carry Permit holder from entering with their gun should have to provide locked storage for the gun onsite.
 

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I feel that any place that denies a Concealed Carry Permit holder from entering with their gun should have to provide locked storage for the gun onsite.
I ignore the signs when I CC because they don't know I have it, and won't know anything about it unless I NEED IT! NOBODY has the right to restrict my rights, especially when it comes to defending myself, my family, or my fellow citizen.
 

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Your original thread said you plan on leaving it you CAR

You should never leave a firearm in your CAR unattended

Say a neighborhood kids get in your car and shoots himself or others?? Or a break in by a real bad guy.?
I/we,can not advise you on your individual State Law

As to your house you need to know what your STATE laws are. Some States do not allow a gun left in the home unless it is locked up Some are very strict others not so much. But regardless the gun is your responsibility at all times.

Concealed Carry is carry on your person, not a permit to leave a gun lying around someplace,

A pretty blanket statement. Location, type of vehicle storage security, are just a couple of things that should be computed into the equation. One size does not fit all! memtb
 

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I ignore the signs when I CC because they don't know I have it, and won't know anything about it unless I NEED IT! NOBODY has the right to restrict my rights, especially when it comes to defending myself, my family, or my fellow citizen.
I don't carry, so I have only a philosophical interest in this matter. I do agree with you but there are some places which incorporate a walk-through metal detector to prevent people from ignoring their edict. Courthouses are one.

My opinion, which I doubt will stand up in one of our kangaroo courts, is that if the building owner has the right to prevent me from entering if I am armed, then I have the right to refuse to enter if I'm summoned there.
 

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A pretty blanket statement. Location, type of vehicle storage security, are just a couple of things that should be computed into the equation. One size does not fit all! memtb
I was a reply rather than someone saying nothing other than a "blanket statement"
Please enlighten us with your computation since we do not know where he lives.

PS: a blanket will not keep the gun any warmer in the car.
 

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Fair enough. What do you say though to the variety of people who leave a gun in their car? For example, some people have to do so when going into a job for the day, a courtroom, etc etc. I agree with your risk points, but I'm not sure everyone agrees that the answer is to never have a gun in your car. It seems as if many people do. According to my state law, from what I can tell, you are able to have a loaded gun in the car if you have a concealed carry permit, but not if you don't. It doesn't say anything about if you leave the car.
Some articles I found:
How Do You Leave Firearms In The Car Responsibly? - USA Carry
PA Rules for Transporting/Carrying Firearms | FICG (firearmsindustryconsultinggroup.com)

This thread has veered so far off the original topic it is a mess.

It was a about temperature and function of a a Glock,

Yes I should not have used the word NEVER, never say Never. I was responding to your "overnight"

Yes sometimes people (even me) leave a gun in the car for a few minutes like going to the Post Office, Court. Hospital/Dr office. I do not leave it in the car OVERNIGHT.

Know your State law
 

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I was a reply rather than someone saying nothing other than a "blanket statement"
Please enlighten us with your computation since we do not know where he lives.

PS: a blanket will not keep the gun any warmer in the car.
His question was pertaining to temperatures. You brought up legalities, safety, ect. These are items to addressed by the OP.....as we have no idea of his particular circumstances!

In most places and situations your comment is perfectly valid.....but, not all! Hence the “blanket statement” response! memtb
 

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His question was pertaining to temperatures. You brought up legalities, safety, ect. These are items to addressed by the OP.....as we have no idea of his particular circumstances!

In most places and situations your comment is perfectly valid.....but, not all! Hence the “blanket statement” response! memtb
No not really, go back and read the posts, others brought up the "stolen" issue.
 

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Fair enough. What do you say though to the variety of people who leave a gun in their car? For example, some people have to do so when going into a job for the day, a courtroom, etc etc. I agree with your risk points, but I'm not sure everyone agrees that the answer is to never have a gun in your car. It seems as if many people do. According to my state law, from what I can tell, you are able to have a loaded gun in the car if you have a concealed carry permit, but not if you don't. It doesn't say anything about if you leave the car.
Some articles I found:
How Do You Leave Firearms In The Car Responsibly? - USA Carry
PA Rules for Transporting/Carrying Firearms | FICG (firearmsindustryconsultinggroup.com)
It really doesn't matter what other people choose to do, what matters is the CCW permit that's been issued to you. Since you choose not to have your sidearm under your control overnight, break it down, slide in one location, barrel in another and frame inside with you.

YMMV. :)
 

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Hi, occasionally when traveling to another person's house overnight, in the future I may have one of my 9 mm pistols in my car for concealed carry. Just got my license. But, I may not be able to bring it in the house nor want to ask permission to do so.

In the winter, like now, where the temperatures are just above and below freezing most nights, is it safe to leave my guns in the car? I know people say it's probably fine, but I also want to take care of them. Also, it would probably be occasional.Does this produce wear and tear on them? We are talking 20 degrees at the lowest, but usually more like 30 degrees to 40 degrees. Tonight it is maybe 35.

Edit: If I were to do so I would bring my steel pistol lockbox with cable to attach to car inside, hidden.
Leave them together so they can snuggle
 
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