Photo Editor Ethics
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·Bill,
Your hitting on a touchy subject. I once posted a joking thread about professionals that worked with software enhancing images of guns for sale...It was very telling. One gent sent me an email of one of my gun images of a New Model Ruger....he had converted it to a Flattop. It was a stunning picture....very well done.
One of my screensavers is a pic I took outside of two .45 Colts. The artist grabbed the images and floated them above a black mirror image. The pic is very striking and enhanced. It also has nothing to do with the original. Another fellow seperated the same image and floated just one of the guns in a sea of fire. Again a beautiful pic. All this was done from a image they captured from a photobucket file......
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Your hitting on a touchy subject. I once posted a joking thread about professionals that worked with software enhancing images of guns for sale...It was very telling. One gent sent me an email of one of my gun images of a New Model Ruger....he had converted it to a Flattop. It was a stunning picture....very well done.
One of my screensavers is a pic I took outside of two .45 Colts. The artist grabbed the images and floated them above a black mirror image. The pic is very striking and enhanced. It also has nothing to do with the original. Another fellow seperated the same image and floated just one of the guns in a sea of fire. Again a beautiful pic. All this was done from a image they captured from a photobucket file......
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The questions you ask are good ones. Obviously if someone doctors up scratches and blemishes, thats going to be obvious and there are going to be problems.
Keep in mind monitor calibration too. What looks good for color settings on your screen may not be the case at all for someone else. You could adjust your photos to look great on your own desktop while down the street someone else viewing them may have oversaturated or washed out color, or there may be peculiar color casts to the same image. Also there are multiple color profiles in use today, and my guess is most people don't have a clue what sort of profile their own computer is using.
Keep in mind monitor calibration too. What looks good for color settings on your screen may not be the case at all for someone else. You could adjust your photos to look great on your own desktop while down the street someone else viewing them may have oversaturated or washed out color, or there may be peculiar color casts to the same image. Also there are multiple color profiles in use today, and my guess is most people don't have a clue what sort of profile their own computer is using.
Sir.Hunter said:You can do a lot with a photo program, I spent exactly 2 seconds on this, can you see what I did?
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I think you moved the grip medallion.
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I had no idea what I was doing today. Playing with a photo on a computer was new to me. I see some of you are wizards. I hope you all have a code of ethics. That was the idea of the original post. I was pretty certain that there was a great deal of computer knowledge within this forum.
Makes me consider leaving my pics on my thumb drive and just enjoying others photos. I don't want any of my S&W's coming back looking like a Ruger Flattop.
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Makes me consider leaving my pics on my thumb drive and just enjoying others photos. I don't want any of my S&W's coming back looking like a Ruger Flattop.
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You took the pin out of the barrel. Please don't turn my pre-27 into a 27-3.Hunter said:
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Looks like you loosened up the screw at the rear of the trigger guard. Hope you are using the right screw driver bit.Hunter said:
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Don't ask me. I was absolutely creamed a couple years ago on the other forum for suggesting that it might have been slightly unethical for S&W to have sent out specially prepared guns for promotion to the magazine writers reviewing them. The guns were finished with more care, wore better wood, and looked more deluxe than what the customers could expect to get and I was torn a new one by a bunch of folks for commenting that this seemed a bit unethical.
So now I don't comment on ethics.
So now I don't comment on ethics.
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On the other hand, using photo programs to make the picture appear the way that the gun actually looks in your hand (sharpening, playing with the lighting) - well, that's a good idea for a seller. Doing anything else is going to get the gun returned and negative feedback . . . I've not found it to be an issue, but maybe I've just been fortunate in the fine folks with whom I've had online dealings. :ymhug:
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Well-said, Erich!
In the photo business, we always used to say that the camera doesn't lie.
Baloney!
It lied then and it lies now.
People (all of us) are somewhat vain, and we tend to see what we
want to see. :ymhug:
Here's my 'read' on things:
1) The average person on the street cannot photograph a handgun to
reflect its real-life appearance.
2) Indoors or out, you're dealing with sky reflection and refraction of
colors, or Kelvin numbers inside.
3) A knowledgeable buyer/shopper knows what the gun is
supposed to look like...if you're not sure, you'd be better
off doing 'in person' deals, looking at the gun in your hands.
4) So many potential buyers and bidders won't ask the questions that
would save a lot of disappointment later...Remember, it's not
personal , it's business.
I've been doing this for a long time, and I'm not too proud to share with the membership two things:
The absolute WORST p.o.s. gun I ever bought was from a big-name, reputable dealer. It was a face-to-face transaction.
Many of the best guns I've bought have been from internet photos, many of which (the photos) were pretty dismal.
Hint: Poor-quality photos generally bring poor-quality prices.
Buy books, study, study, study until you know when there's something wrong in a photo.
Don
In the photo business, we always used to say that the camera doesn't lie.
Baloney!
It lied then and it lies now.
People (all of us) are somewhat vain, and we tend to see what we
want to see. :ymhug:
Here's my 'read' on things:
1) The average person on the street cannot photograph a handgun to
reflect its real-life appearance.
2) Indoors or out, you're dealing with sky reflection and refraction of
colors, or Kelvin numbers inside.
3) A knowledgeable buyer/shopper knows what the gun is
supposed to look like...if you're not sure, you'd be better
off doing 'in person' deals, looking at the gun in your hands.
4) So many potential buyers and bidders won't ask the questions that
would save a lot of disappointment later...Remember, it's not
personal , it's business.
I've been doing this for a long time, and I'm not too proud to share with the membership two things:
The absolute WORST p.o.s. gun I ever bought was from a big-name, reputable dealer. It was a face-to-face transaction.
Many of the best guns I've bought have been from internet photos, many of which (the photos) were pretty dismal.
Hint: Poor-quality photos generally bring poor-quality prices.
Buy books, study, study, study until you know when there's something wrong in a photo.
Don
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I was reading an article a few years ago about the first Camaro that was sent to a magazine company for review in that magazine {I would never call a publication a 'clip' :mrgreen: }, any way, the publication expected to get a car with a tuned, hand built engine. The magazine gave the new Chevy a glowing review. It came out in the article I was reading that the entire car had been hand built. The engine balanced and blue printed, as was the tranny and rear end. The suspension tweeked and wider than stock tires were used. I think about that every time I read a product review. Even in "Consumer Reports", but because C.R. has an agendaSaxonPig said:
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·The original picture...
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And after Photoshop...
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And after Photoshop...
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·Original
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Photoshop....melded to a Dewalt Nail Gun... :mrgreen:
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Photoshop....melded to a Dewalt Nail Gun... :mrgreen:
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