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pix985316163.jpg I have since expressing interest in a "Sheriff's Model" picked up several of these SAA clones. For years I was content with my Colt Cowboy, but no longer. Instead as I surf through various offerings I am mystified by: Taylor's (and New Taylor's), Uberti, Pietta, Pedersoli, Armi Jager, Armi San Marco, Cimarron, J.P. Sauer und Sohn (and Herter's), Mitchell, Pietta, Great Western, EMF, Beretta; und so weiter............

In addition to adding another bullet/caliber (.425/.44 WCF) to my headaches, I know neither heads nor tails of who actually makes nor what to look for in this world of SAA clones.

And, to make it interesting throw in a few pictures for entertainments sake.
 

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Very few old revolvers strike my fancy. The Colt SA is one of them. To keep me in check..I will only buy an original.

I'm NOT saying anything against the clones/copies...it's just my way of not ending up with even more guns I need to find space for.

That's all the edjucatin I can offer..;)

This is one of my favorites, and at 129 yrs of age, will hang with anything else I shoot...

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What do you intend to use this new SAA for? Collecting? Shooting?
Collecting>I'd buy an original Colt in 44/40. one made after 1904 with the "smokeless" frame.
Shooter gun>I'd buy the Cimmaron Model P. Uberti makes these guns and the cylinder & bore are a true .4275 diameter of the original 44/40.Note: Ruger et al makers use a 44 mag reamer which is .4295.
If your going to reload you will get great accuracy with the proper bullet diameter.
Hey check out Buffalo Arms for all the Cimmaron models. Also check out SnS Casting for their 44/40 cast bullets. I use the 200 gr RNFP's and Starline Brass & 8.7 grains of Unique.

Good Luck & Good Shootin!
 

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Diabloman's post reminded me of my best friend and his younger brother who were very active in cowboy action shooting. Although they had original Colts (made after the turn of the century) they used Ubertis, I forget the name of the outfit who sells springs, WOLF springs! But that is all they did to the Ubertis and my friend is angry that the Ubertis will outshoot his original Colt.
 

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In the world of freshly minted Colt clones you only need to know two names ,, Uberti and Pietta . I believe they are the basis for everything rebranded by the current distributers , Taylors , Cimmaron, EMF and the newer Great Western II etc. The Beretta is a Uberti with a transfer bar and even the highly vaulted USFA colt clones spent their early years being made out of Uberti parts. I believe Armi San Marco was absorbed by Pietta but the newer made Pietta stuff is better,, and parts ,if needed can be had.
For big ,strong and heavy don't forget American made Ruger, Virginian Dragoon , BFR, Freedom arms ,Seville and Abilene and of course Colt and the later model USFA. Most of these are not as traditional but benefit from adjustable sights. A advantage not to be overlooked in making the gun practical . Old original Great Western are collectable in their own right and I never see any.
The German guns , Hawes, Herder's , Sauer and Sohn and Arminius are all interrelated and good solid guns.
 

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I have a bit of personal experience with a coupla SAA clones and can't speak on the others.

If you like em bigger, heavier and stronger than the original Colt's, I've had 35 plus years of good experiences with this early Virginian Dragoon in .45 Colt.....

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Another bigger, heavier and stronger one is this Western Arms (Uberti) .44 Magnum with adjustable sights.....

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Regarding size, beefiness, heft............these two examples are on a par with the Ruger SBH.
 

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I have also owned a Virginian Dragoon but in 44 Magnum, a very large very solid piece. I am still playing with the .401 Powermag but have yet to break beyond the .38-40 level to my satisfaction. If I get serious the Model 27s and the 29 will be called upon. I will always believe a S&W T^3 is the cream of single action shooting. This is purely a history/recreational diversion.
 

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NOW these fall into the HUNKEY/CHUNKEY category - They are original Ruger Vaqueros, but in 357 magnum/38 special caliber. These have a LOT of metal because of the 36 caliber bullets. The Vaqueros are heavy in this caliber and shooting these heavy guns was very comfortable shooting 158 JHP 357's. My neighbor was shooting one ragged hole in the cardboard targets.
Ruger builds heavy and reliable guns.
 

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Here is a Colt Sheriff's model DSCN0617.JPG It's a 44 cal, 44spl/44wcf. Bought this recently for $1295.00 which believe it or not is a good price. Deals are out there. If you want a Colt SAA then buy a Colt not a repro. I like 2nd and 3rd gen Colt's and leave the 1st gen's for collectors. Here is a 2nd gen for the price of a standard 3rd gen DSCN0526.JPG . This is a 2nd gen that started out as a 357 and is now a 45 colt. DSCN0619.JPG .
 

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If you are looking to start Cowboy Action Shooting, IMHO you can't beat the Ruger Vaquero line with a hammer.

The only thing to keep in mind is you may want to buy the same caliber lever rifle as your revolver to save money by having to stock up on one ammo for both.

otherwise... Just buy the one that makes you happy at the time. And the time after that, and the time after that...
 

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A bit of history: Uberti bought Colt's worn tooling decades ago & rebuilt it. Many of the "Colt" SAA's were assembled from Uberti parts afterwards. So were the Cimarrons, etc.. Ubertis are as good shooters as the Colts of the same era & a fraction of the cost. Beretta now owns Uberti & their Stampedes are IMHO the best for the price anywhere. Freedom Arms are the finest but pricey.
 

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I have a Ruger Vaquero and Uberti "El Patron"(Exact Colt Reproduction of the SAA 1873). The Ruger is heavier but the Uberti is better for Cowboy Action in my opinion as is very easy to cock one handed and aim. Some reviews say it was made for horseback due to that trigger action. The Ruger can shoot some real stout loads (old model) and the Birds Head grips are really comfortable.
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Well, I haven't done too well with SAA's. Had a Colt Frontier Six Shooter in .44-40 and managed to trade it away for most of what I had in it. Then, this Cimarron Bisley in .44 Special came along at a decent price. But, I can't shoot it well. Something about that Bisley grip...





 

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But, I can't shoot it well. Something about that Bisley grip...
The Uberti version of a Bisley really is too extreme.
Ruger modified quite a bit and still it is not my favorite and is reserved for hard kickers. Can't go wrong with a plow handle for natural ergonomics.
 

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I've never been much of a fan of SA revolvers. But a close friend of mine has a Uberti in 45 LC, and for the past 8 years I've been trying to get her to part with it. So far, no joy.

The Uberti is by far the most accurate SA wheelgun I've ever shot, and that's over a couple of Colt SA's, and Ruger SA's as well.
Give me a Uberti, and I'll head into the sunset a very happy cowboy!
 

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Thanks for the help, friends. Guys, I study in college and before the end of the year I was given the task of writing a book report on the book I last read. I really love Russian classical literature, I read Solzhenitsyn Gulag Archipelago, but I never wrote an answer for the book. My friends advised me to contact a professional book report writing service edusson.com What do you say about this? Who collaborated with them? Or who wrote a book report, please give advice.
 
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