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I have inherited this old S&W revolver. I am not sure which model it is and need you guys experience and help.

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- .38 caliber (38 S&W or 38 Short Colt). The gun had a box of 38 Short Colt with it but I cannot see where S&W ever produced a gun with that cartridge. There are no marking of caliber on the gun. It is not a 38 special due to short cylinder.
- 2" barrel
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- Serial number 720713 (on butt end, under barrel and on cylinder face)
- Has number 66314 on frame and yoke
- S&W trade make on right side of frame along with "Made in USA" forward of that mark.
- Nickel Plated

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Looks like it was a Victory revolver made for the british in WW2 that has been nickel plated and had the barrel cut down. This was very common after the war. You can probably see where the lanyard hole was filled in on the butt before the refinish
 

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Yep. Decent truck gun, but not much value otherwise.
 

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Thanks for the info.....I believe I see where the lanyard hole was filled in. Does the SN correspond to that WWII period? Also, did the S&W make the 38 S&W caliber chamber it in the 38 S&W for Britain?
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum. Nice old revolver. Any family history with the gun? A fine inheritance nevertheless and something to cherish and pass on. Enjoy it.
The 38 "short" was developed by S&W in the late 1800's I believe. So the round was in use in various firearms before supplying England with firearms. The British had there own variations of the round and S&W manufactured the revolvers to supply them and so they could use their ammo.
 

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Hi and welcome to the forum. Nice old revolver. Any family history with the gun? A fine inheritance nevertheless and something to cherish and pass on. Enjoy it.
The 38 "short" was developed by S&W in the late 1800's I believe.
The verbal history is that the great uncle it came from was a railroad security officer.
 

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Welcome to the forums from the Wiregrass!
 

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.38 Short is an old Colt's chambering yours was manufactured as a .38 S&W but actually for the more powerful .380 Rimmed of the British Military. Most of these like yours were bored through to accept .38 Specials. Exspect some .003 or so swelling in the cases if you fire them (presuming they will chamber).

.38 Special is the result of stretching the .38 Long Colt not the .38 S&W.
 

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.38 Short is an old Colt's chambering yours was manufactured as a .38 S&W but actually for the more powerful .380 Rimmed of the British Military. Most of these like yours were bored through to accept .38 Specials. Exspect some .003 or so swelling in the cases if you fire them (presuming they will chamber).

.38 Special is the result of stretching the .38 Long Colt not the .38 S&W.
This one has not been bored through. the chamber depth measures .775 " which corresponds to a .38 S&W.
 

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And, it is properly a Military & Police Model 1905, Change 4. We often refer to them as British Service Revolvers or British Victories or Pre-Victory. A revolver from the 1950's or 60's marked Model 11 is one rare bird.
 

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This one has not been bored through. the chamber depth measures .775 " which corresponds to a .38 S&W.
This gun got the standard treatment of converted ex-British models, shortening, nickeling, plastic stocks. So to NOT also have been converted to .38 Special would make it a very odd bird.

The old shoulders are usually still visible after reaming. Have you tried inserting a .38 Special to confirm that it does not go in?
 

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Yes I have. That is how I measured the cylinder depth. See photo.
That does make it unusual. Converting the chambers was the first thing normally done to these. There are some that were just converted and not otherwise changed; the opposite like yours, all the cosmetic changes but not converted, I haven‘t encountered before. The box of .38 Short Colt with it is interesting too. By the time the gun was modified, the Short was much less common than even the .38 S&W.
 
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