M&P AR15

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · Apr 4, 2021 (Edited)

Bought an M&P AR-15 Sport Optics Ready model. Put a Tactical Tailstock, Atibal SLR-1 Red Dot, Sig Sauer 3x Magnifier that swings out of the way for closer shooting, A carbine length Quad Rail Steamliner RM-1 light w/ remote mounted switch etc. ( changed light position since taking photos to below it’s shown position -to a 45 degree down angle so light would not affect the Red Dot at night.
Finally took it to indoor Range Friday to sight in Red Dot at 25yards an once done really enjoyed shooting this AR.

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Toddlars1

· #2 · Apr 4, 2021

Looks great, they are a lot of fun to accessorize

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #3 · Apr 5, 2021

Toddlars1 said:
Looks great, they are a lot of fun to accessorize

YES THEY ARE! THANK YOU

gearchecker

· #4 · Apr 6, 2021

Nice rifle.
Here's my professional opinion of it. There's too much stuff on it.... that's a lot of unnecessary added weight.
Get rid of the flip up sights and that angled or vertical grip, whichever it is. I strongly recommend choosing one or the other and get one that's dedicated to the purpose, functional, but lightweight.
And what is that item on the left side, just in front of the switchpad for the light?
As the expression goes, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #5 · Apr 6, 2021

gearchecker said:
Nice rifle.
Here's my professional opinion of it. There's too much stuff on it.... that's a lot of unnecessary added weight.
Get rid of the flip up sights and that angled or vertical grip, whichever it is. I strongly recommend choosing one or the other and get one that's dedicated to the purpose, functional, but lightweight.
And what is that item on the left side, just in front of the switchpad for the light?
As the expression goes, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

I will get rid of the flipup sight I guess. Only put it on in event the Red Dot sight’s battery went dead to give a vertical reference. Put the angle rail to keep light closer to the gun but will remove it and mount the light onto right hand rail. Was trying to minimize damage to it. I do agree about weight, all else stays
Thanks for your expertise

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #6 · Apr 6, 2021 (Edited)

gearchecker said:
Nice rifle.
Here's my professional opinion of it. There's too much stuff on it.... that's a lot of unnecessary added weight.
Get rid of the flip up sights and that angled or vertical grip, whichever it is. I strongly recommend choosing one or the other and get one that's dedicated to the purpose, functional, but lightweight.
And what is that item on the left side, just in front of the switchpad for the light?
As the expression goes, "Just because you can, doesn't mean you should."

Sorry, realized you were speaking of the 45 degree angled grip. Also that is a thumb rest that came with angled hand grip. Had my doubts about it but actual felt good as it added more stability to holding rifle. I put that on because after putting the aluminum quad rail on the rails did not feel good to hold on to. After installing the Angled Grip it felt very good to me. I ordered a Magpul MOE M LOK handguard to replace it with. This should lighten things up a bit

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gearchecker

· #7 · Apr 6, 2021

GMA8877 said:
I will get rid of the flipup sight I guess. Only put it on in event the Red Dot sight’s battery went dead to give a vertical reference. Put the angle rail to keep light closer to the gun but will remove it and mount the light onto right hand rail. Was trying to minimize damage to it. I do agree about weight, all else stays
Thanks for your expertise

I think you'll like the MOE handguard!. IT's well made and infinitely comfortable too.

With your setup the flip up sights will most likely never be needed. For your electronic sights to fail, something major would have to happen to them, like dropping your rifle down a flight of concrete stairs. That equipment is built so well these days it'll stand up to some serious abuse. and in the tim it would take to get them out of the way so you could use the flip ups you could get off 5 or 6 clean shots just from dead reckoning.
It's a really good setup, but as you use your rifle more and more you'll learn to trust what you have, and will more than likely be removing a few of those attachment because you'll discover the accessories you need, and those that are taking up real estate and adding weight. Even a few ounces can make a big diference in the way your rifle handles. I have nearly all of my AR's down to either a 1-6, or a 1-8 scope, and a Magpul angled foregrip. On my CQB I've added 45 degree offset irons.

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #8 · Apr 7, 2021

gearchecker said:
I think you'll like the MOE handguard!. IT's well made and infinitely comfortable too.

With your setup the flip up sights will most likely never be needed. For your electronic sights to fail, something major would have to happen to them, like dropping your rifle down a flight of concrete stairs. That equipment is built so well these days it'll stand up to some serious abuse. and in the tim it would take to get them out of the way so you could use the flip ups you could get off 5 or 6 clean shots just from dead reckoning.
It's a really good setup, but as you use your rifle more and more you'll learn to trust what you have, and will more than likely be removing a few of those attachment because you'll discover the accessories you need, and those that are taking up real estate and adding weight. Even a few ounces can make a big diference in the way your rifle handles. I have nearly all of my AR's down to either a 1-6, or a 1-8 scope, and a Magpul angled foregrip. On my CQB I've added 45 degree offset irons.

I really appreciate your suggestions and expertise . I am looking forward to replacing quadrail with the Magpul MLok Handguard. I had ordered different sizes of Mlok Pickatinny rails and was in process of ordering the Magpul hand guard and noticed it set a little higher than the gun’s picatinny rail and ordered the quad rail instead not knowing if I would need the top rail same height or not. Now I know I don’t even need it at all.

gearchecker

· #9 · Apr 7, 2021

The biggest problem I see coming down the line for you will be the realization that just one or two AR's can't fill all of your shooting needs, and possibly desires. So far I'm at 8 or 9 AR's Each is uniquely different from the others. A couple are strictly for fun and wasting ammo, and a couple are purpose driven, but there always seems to be the desire to add another. I just bought a Franklin Armory Binary lower receiver, and I can't decide if I want to build a pistol, or another rifle with it.
So many decisions.

Enjoy the chase and challenges, they're all yours to enjoy and ponder over. Have fun, learn as you go, and most of all, please be safe!!

In high regards,
Gregory

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #10 · Apr 7, 2021

gearchecker said:
The biggest problem I see coming down the line for you will be the realization that just one or two AR's can't fill all of your shooting needs, and possibly desires. So far I'm at 8 or 9 AR's Each is uniquely different from the others. A couple are strictly for fun and wasting ammo, and a couple are purpose driven, but there always seems to be the desire to add another. I just bought a Franklin Armory Binary lower receiver, and I can't decide if I want to build a pistol, or another rifle with it.
So many decisions.

Enjoy the chase and challenges, they're all yours to enjoy and ponder over. Have fun, learn as you go, and most of all, please be safe!!

In high regards,
Gregory

I would love to have another but my wife would kill me as I have several guns, bass guitars and guitars 😂

GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #11 · Apr 8, 2021

In addition to this S&W M&P AR-15 Sport II and 3 other pistols I have a S&W M&P .45 ACP I really like.

GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #12 · Apr 9, 2021

GMA8877 said:
In addition to this S&W M&P AR-15 Sport II and 3 other pistols I have a S&W M&P .45 ACP I really like.

Here is my S&W M&P AR-15 sport II Paired down for Weight reduction. Removed the Quad aluminum hand guard and replaced with the Magpul MOE M-Lock Hand guard and only put the Light and remote switch on it. Much lighter and does hurt my hands.

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gearchecker

· #13 · Apr 10, 2021

WOW, That's awesome. I am a true believer in the MOE handguard. They're light and very comfortable.
Congrats!!

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GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #14 · Apr 10, 2021

gearchecker said:
WOW, That's awesome. I am a true believer in the MOE handguard. They're light and very comfortable.
Congrats!!

That was what I should have done in the first place. 😉😊

JayBird2021

· #15 · Apr 20, 2021

GMA8877 said:
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Bought an M&P AR-15 Sport Optics Ready model. Put a Tactical Tailstock, Atibal SLR-1 Red Dot, Sig Sauer 3x Magnifier that swings out of the way for closer shooting, A carbine length Quad Rail Steamliner RM-1 light w/ remote mounted switch etc. ( changed light position since taking photos to below it’s shown position -to a 45 degree down angle so light would not affect the Red Dot at night.
Finally took it to indoor Range Friday to sight in Red Dot at 25yards an once done really enjoyed shooting this AR.

She's a BEAUTY! Thanks for sharing. More ideas for mine.

Cheer's! ⚓ 🇺🇸

GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #16 · Apr 20, 2021

I have a question. I am confused by term AR-15 rifle/pistol. I thought I purchased an AR-15 .223/5.56 rifle but I see photos that look similar and they are talking about AR-15 pistols and the tail stock as a pistol stock. Please help me understand this. I did not buy this to hurt anyone but do not want it taken away either

GMA8877

Discussion Starter · #17 · Apr 21, 2021

Disregard the above I guess. I looked up my model and found it is indeed a rifle . I don’t understand some they call a pistol that look like an AR-15 rifle. I do get the ones that look like a pistol with an armrest added

SchemaEnigma

· #18 · Apr 21, 2021

I think this comes from the National Firearms Act (actual experts here correct me if wrong).

A pistol is theoretically able to be fired with one hand, has no buttstock (but a brace is OK) and no vertical foregrip.
If it has a barrel length of less than 16 inches and a buttstock or vertical foregrip, it has to be registered as a short-barreled rifle, which is not something most civilians would want to have to do.

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