Darn it Mick, I have friends showing up from San Diego in just a few minutes as the Padres spring game is ending up and I'm sucked up with company for the rest of the weekend, otherwise I'd be there! However, I will be heading that way to do my "lead letting" when I do finally get loose. BTW, we break out from Miller Road, northside of I-10, by the Buckeye electric substation on the dirt road, run west and pick up the Liberty power line access road, which is north-west, then out the County Park fence line to the open areas. There are a couple of good hills that provide great back-stop shooting locations. They're miles from any structure with very few 2-legged animals. So now I'm missing a shoot opportunity, coffee and a potential meal? Man, I need to stay away from this forum, I was in a reasonably good mood before I read this! :mrgreen: