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Short version:

Got my iron pointed in the direction of fur twice today, came up empty handed.

Scope's only got ONE JOB, don't lose zero. Pest #1 sashays off, unharmed. Thanks a pant-load,
NIKON. Yanno, if the scope couldn't hold zero on 375 H&H recoil, that would be one thing, but 5.56?
Come on.

Rifle's only got ONE JOB, don't jam, in the clutch. Pest #2 dances away, free. With all the blather
and hooting about how great COLT is, I must admit, I'm waiting to be impressed.

Needless to say, could have had a better day hunting.
 

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Maybe I should have said "pest control". Feral cats ain't stupid. I probably blew my one and only chance of ever nailing him.
I guess the frustration comes from the rifle running like clockwork at the range EVERY TIME, just to stick, right when
I really needed it to perform. Leaves me thinking those 400$ ARs are just as good as those spendy 1200$ Colts...
 

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Toss the scope. I can't stand poor optics. Good scopes cost many hundreds of dollars..even thousands, for a reason, and it's not because they are made of gold. I once owned a Hensoldt..biggest mistake I made was selling it with the rifle it came with but they were a factory package..and I hated the rifle. Nothing like dependable optics!
 

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This wasn't a "cheap" scope, per se, but I am starting to reconsider my whole scope paradigm.
Seems like I just zeroed this thing a few weeks ago.
 

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"What is your favorite scope brand, right now?"

I really like the Trijicon line. Affordable,easy to use and rock solid.

It's funny..people will think nothing about spending $3k for a fine rifle..but then put $200 optics on it and wonder why they can't dependably hit jack... ;)

I'm not saying everyone should buy a Swarovski..but I'm amazed how many Hammers or BSAs I've seen on the line,with owners swearing at their ammo or rifle.
 

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I'm partial to my leupys, got a bunch of them.
Never had a zero problem. My newest rifle, with a 2×7 fire dot. Ringing steel at 200 yards with it. The scope has been on 2 other guns and 2 other xbows, now this rifle. Great scopes for the money, and made in the USA.
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I'm going to look into Trijicon. I usually check zero every six months or so, and I've learned my lesson about cheap optics.
But with year-round hunting of pest species and predators, I have to agree I may have to step up my glass game a bit.
A decent rifle is nothing with crap optics.

That's a nice looking AR10, Breakaway500. Reminds me a little of my AR15. What's the caliber, .308?
 

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My Armalite AR10T is .308 Winchester. What most people don't know is the Armalite AR10 came before the AR15 or the M16. Stoner built the AR10 in 1955. In the 70s I dreamed about owning one of the Target models. Every magazine that reviewed one raved about their accuracy. Mine was built in the late 80s. I bought it new old stock in early 90s from a guy at a gun show. He had a large display of AR rifles and I lamented about my fondness for the AR10T from the 80s, and he says wait a minute..and comes back with a tattered box and a BIG smile on his face. Inside was my dream rifle..brand new! He came across it at a distributor who had gone out of business. My AR10T is a true Armalite, built with a Lothar Walther 24" barrel. It will punch 1 hole targets with match grade military ammo all day,every day. I've upgraded it with a Magpul stock and Geissele SDC two stage trigger assy. I still have that tattered box..;)

From my cold...dead hands...:)
 

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I learned a long time ago if you don't have good form and proper body placement the best glass in the world won't do you any good
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When your scope is out of zero, it's out of zero, regardless of form or body posture. The scope was out of zero, and needed to be re-zeroed. Once it was re-zeroed, it was hitting the bulls-eye, even though I had crappy form and bad body placement.
 

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Very surprised the scope would be the culprit. I have quite a few Nikon rifle scopes, from their high end, down to their low end. I've never broken one, or had one move off zero. You should make *absolutely sure* you're not blaming the scope for a bad installation. Just because you can move the scope adjustments to "rezero" the scope, does NOT mean it wasn't the mount the entire time.
 

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Now it's shooting to zero. That surely sounds like it was out of zero, to me. Are you saying
Nikon mounts are bad? Because it's a one piece Nikon mount. And it's tight.
 

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I'm not saying any Nikon products are "bad". I'm also not saying there's no way the scope is "bad". I'm saying it's pretty darn unusual to have a Nikon "anything" go bad. Usually, it's something simpler than that, and easily overlooked. Like a misinstalled base, or loose rings, rings not aligned, rings not lapped when scope installed, or the wrong base was used on the wrong receiver. Stuff like that.

Not much back story to go on. Has the rifle ever been dropped, scope banged hard, recently swapped from another rifle, had someone "work on" the gun, etc. Those are what I find more often than an actual "bad" Nikon.
 

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Here's the back story. The last time I ZEROED the scope it shot .5 MOA. When I RE-ZEROED the scope,
it shot .5 MOA again. Capisce?
 
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