Half lug vs full underlug?
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A full lug on ANY S&W is wasted steel, ugly and extra weight to tote.......They are not attractive at all compared to a S&W tapered or straight barrel..........Side grinder anyone?
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The full lug must add a significant amount of weight. I don't know if the steels or different or what other differences there might be but I weighed my 3"686 and my Half lug Ruger Match 10mm champion with 4.2 bbl and the GP was only 2 ozs heavier.
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I may have messed up how I worded it so here is what I got
3" 686 unloaded 2lb 4 oz
4.2" Ruger GP100 Half jug unloaded 2lb 6oz
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I may have messed up how I worded it so here is what I got
3" 686 unloaded 2lb 4 oz
4.2" Ruger GP100 Half jug unloaded 2lb 6oz
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I like both styles. I am glad S&W makes revolvers both ways. Otherwise they would all look alike.
The initial Pythons had a hollow underlug. Someone along the way decided the extra weight at the barrel would be nice for recoil control, and they started making it solid, so I would think that was an engineering change, since the looks didn't change
According to the factory websites, the 3 inch 686 plus weighs 36.8 oz., and the 3 inch GP100 weighs 36 oz.
The new 2.75 inch, model 66 weighs in at 33.5 ounces, so over 3 ounces for the extra quarter inch of barrel with full underlug
The initial Pythons had a hollow underlug. Someone along the way decided the extra weight at the barrel would be nice for recoil control, and they started making it solid, so I would think that was an engineering change, since the looks didn't change
According to the factory websites, the 3 inch 686 plus weighs 36.8 oz., and the 3 inch GP100 weighs 36 oz.
The new 2.75 inch, model 66 weighs in at 33.5 ounces, so over 3 ounces for the extra quarter inch of barrel with full underlug
Other benefits are barrel strength, support, and rigidity. JMHO, full lugs seem easier to aim.
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It's not just the "weight", ya also gotta consider the "balance".......and the "balance" factor increases with "recoil & lift".
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That is true .. and I think there is something to be said for how far out from you the weight is. Had a 6in GP and while it wasn't tremendously heavier the weight was further out front and messed with me some. I suppose a half lug there might make some difference and give you the extra length without putting all the weight way out front?
I honestly thought the engineers were trying to combat barrel flex or something?? I had read recently on some forum how the hlaf lug was faster in competition but I couldnt see how it would make that much a difference so I figured I would ask instead of staying ignorant.
Looks wise .. I love em both. My little 686 looks like a battle beast with unfluted cylinder and heavy underlug but the longer ruger with half lug is kinda sexy too.
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No they are not!!! Full lugs have nothing to do with sighting. Why a full lug on a 3" mdl 60 or 617?
I think he meant holding factor as in steadiness maybe.
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In the same way that I can appreciate the styling of a 1956 Chevy as well as a 2020 Audi A8 I like classic guns with their pencil barrels as well as more modern guns with their full underlug barrels. Some folks on here seem cocked, locked, and ready to rock at all times. To many questions there is no single answer.
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Opinions are like exhaust pipes......We all got one........I think a 4 inch K Frame with a full underlug barrel such as the 16-4 is the most aesthetically pleasing revolver S&W has made
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Which is why I used “I think” to start the sentence.Opinions are like exhaust pipes......We all got one........I think a 4 inch K Frame with a full underlug barrel such as the 16-4 is the most aesthetically pleasing revolver S&W has made
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