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I bought some Allen Gun Sleeves for my long guns that are treated with Silicone. My question is.....are these gun sleeves OK for the long term (forever) storage of my guns? I have my 1976 Winchester 94 in one. It is a collectable firearm in 100% condition. Both my other long guns are Savage MK I scoped .22 and a Stevens (Savage) Single Shot 20 Ga. Shotgun, both used for local rabbit and varmit hunting .

They are knit fabric....allowing the gun to 'breath', as well as treated with Silicone. I don't want the Winchester to rust. :unsure: Bob
 

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I bought some Allen Gun Sleeves for my long guns that are treated with Silicone. My question is.....are these gun sleeves OK for the long term (forever) storage of my guns? I have my 1976 Winchester 94 in one. It is a collectable firearm in 100% condition. Both my other long guns are Savage MK I scoped .22 and a Stevens (Savage) Single Shot 20 Ga. Shotgun, both used for local rabbit and varmit hunting .

They are knit fabric....allowing the gun to 'breath', as well as treated with Silicone. I don't want the Winchester to rust. :unsure: Bob
I do not think "forever" JMHO but they do little other than prevent scratches

The gun needs to coated with a good rust preventative.

There are many that work and it is a whole big never ending debate!

This is one time that WD 40 Specialist is a great product. But then there is Ezeeox and lots more

If you are actually using the rifles then wipe it down with any good product every-time you use it and you will be fine.


 

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Any product that you out on and STAYS on that is a barrier between metal and air will prevent corrosion. Johnson's Paste Wax will do the job, as will Renaissance and Cosmoline. I use the socks to place all my guns in before they go in the safe; helps with safe ding prevention.
 
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Being the cheap person I am, I use old sweatshirts sleeves cut off and the ends zip tied over the rifles with a shot of silicone spray inside the sleeves. Use them on handguns too.

I cannot see buying 'gun socks' when they are already in my dresser drawer being worn and when worn out and getting ratty, to repurpose them.

Sock it to me baby...... :p
 
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My sleeves are that long; I don't have ape arms.....not even my jean pant legs are long enough for my shotguns and rifles..........besides, cotton holds moisture, the knit silicone socks do not
 
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My sleeves are that long; I don't have ape arms.....not even my jean pant legs are long enough for my shotguns and rifles..........besides, cotton holds moisture, the knit silicone socks do not
Whatever. Depends on where the arms are stored if the socks retain moisture. Guess you are stubby then. Shall we start calling you 'stubbs'? :p

Finally, what is the material content of gun socks anyway? I bet about the same as my sweatshirt sleeves, most likely a cotton / synthetic blend.

Been doing that for decades with zero issues and I own some very expensive long guns. I'm not about to compromise a 7,000 dollar stick.
 

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If you call 34" sleeves Stubby, so be it............:cool:
 

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Don't own any with wood furniture except on, my S&W Husky 308. Everything else is carbon fiber, hydrocoated. Wood stocks have too many negatives versus CF positives. The biggest is weight followed by moisture warping and impacting POI at distance. Wood furniture looks nice but from a downrange accuracy standpoint, they suck.
 

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long term exposure to silicone is very harmful to many wood finishes + causes problems if it penetrates woos pores - just ask any high end wood refinisher or museum conservator -
30+ years for some of my shotguns, no issues and all have wood furniture
 
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Thanks, guys! I do have a cloth treated with Silicone, to wipe down my hunting guns to keep them from rusting, and protect them if used in light rain. They leave a residue on the guns, to protect them. It doesn't look very attractive, but they are cheaper Savage guns that I hunt with, anyway.

I do , on occasion, wipe down my S&W's with a rag with CLR on it. I also use it to clean, lube, and protect all of my guns. I will use this on my Winchester, to prevent rusting of the metal. I'll use furniture polish on the stock.

:rolleyes: I've had the Winchester, maybe 35-40 years. I keep my long guns in a corner of my closet, and they all look good......so I guess I'm not going to damage them anyway! ;) Bob
 

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I use "em" to prevent safe rash and foot socks for my handguns.
I may try that for my handguns, least the semi auto's. I think the XVR would require a Sasquatch sock.
 

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Well, so far just one negative post about Silicone damage that could occur. I think the Winchester has a Poly Urethane finish that would be very protective of the wood, and won't cause any problems in the future. ;) Bob
 

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my negative is based on personal experience + published laboratory tests based on writings of the restorer [ not refinisher ] that was quoted in link of my last post - he has done wood restoration + preservation for numerous U.S. museums , including the Smithsonian , + many European ones also - IIRC the most resistant finish was the old Remington Dupont RKW finish , the other poly type + different oils were equally susceptible - why take a chance on a known carcinogen like silicone when a coating of quality wax + untreated cloth will perform much better at less cost ? - just because some one has used them for years does not mean that they will not effect yours in less time - JMHO -
 

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The gun socks are silicone treated and have a loose weave that allows some air flow. I have used them for years to store guns in my collection, and have no problems with corrosion. The safes also have AC powered humidity removal dry sticks installed.

I started making my own sleeves out of sweatshirt weight cotton material several years ago. I use food grade silicone to treat these before using them, and they work as well as the gun socks. I also have a small number of "Bore Store" sleeves that work well.

The firearms in this storage are regularly inspected, wiped down, oiled (I use spray preserving oil from 3m) and wiped down again before being put back into the gun socks or sleeves. I wear gloves when handling collectible firearms to avoid fingerprinting them.

My climate here gets very humid during the summer, but is not as aggressively corrosive as you would experience near the ocean coast. It does get dryer during the winter season.

You should not spray silicone directly on a firearm. It's almost impossible to remove. I make sure that the gun sleeves I make are completely dry before using them. The story on stock damage is new to me. IIRC all my firearms (including Lugers) have oil based finishes, not polyurethane. Silicone sprayed directly on a stock would cause problems.
 
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i had a couple of them that went bad in my gun safe from the humidity control . Did not hurt the guns but the sleeves went to pot .. Cracked and crumbled
 

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I tend to side with the people that I am familiar with in this case. I have kept my Winchester in a padded gun case for many years, and it's still in great condition.....despite many warnings that this will cause the gun to rust. I will go with the people that I trust!!! Bob
 

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long term exposure to silicone is very harmful to many wood finishes + causes problems if it penetrates wood pores - just ask any high end wood refinisher or museum conservator -
Well that's interesting, I have a lot of guns in silicone sleeves. Define long term, 1 yr? 5 yr?
I'm get out all I own under 5 years, but I have a few I go longer than a year seeing.
Is it only the S&W wood stocks that suffer when plastic/poly/nylon doesn't?

I never heard about the down side of silicone gun sleeves but would like more info if you have it.

Thanks.
 
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