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It's not that you can't buy a handgun here for good reason... it's that you can't buy a handgun here for any reason if you're reacting to the "emergency" for the first time...

People panicked by the COVID-19 Virus Pandemic media emotional manipulation are discovering that the media also lied about being able to buy a gun over the Internet, or even being able to buy a handgun at all!

I guess public "safety" doesn't include self-defense in their world...

Grass Roots North Carolina / Forum For Firearms Education
Post Office Box 10665, Raleigh, NC 27605
877.282.0939 (Phone) 919.573.0354 (Fax)


Press Contact: 704.907.9206
E-mail: [email protected]
Release date: March 27, 2020
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GRNC, SAF, FPC File Federal Lawsuit Against Wake County,
NC Sheriff Over Constitutional Violations
RALEIGH, NC (March 27, 2020) *— Today, attorneys for an individual Wake County, North Carolina resident, Grass Roots North Carolina, Second Amendment Foundation (SAF), and Firearms Policy Coalition filed a federal lawsuit challenging Wake County Sheriff Gerald M. Baker’s recent actions infringing on Second and Fourteenth Amendment rights he announced as a response to the COVID-19 coronavirus pandemic. A copy of the lawsuit can be found at:
This latest case tracks a 2011 federal court victory in Bateman v. Perdue, also led by plaintiffs Second Amendment Foundation and Grass Roots North Carolina, which successfully challenged North Carolina statutes restricting firearms during states of emergency. “Although Sheriff Gerald Baker claims his refusal to accept applications for pistol purchase permits and concealed handgun permits doesn’t infringe on individual rights, nothing could be further from the truth,” said GRNC president Paul Valone. “During this emergency, as always, GRNC intends to ensure that lawful North Carolinians have the means to protect themselves and their families.”
“Sheriff Baker is implementing by fiat what the Supreme Court struck down in Heller – a ban on a citizen’s right to purchase a handgun for the defense of hearth and home. This action cannot be allowed to stand,” said GRNC Director of Legal Affairs Ed Green. “Times of emergency is when you need the ability to obtain the means of self-defense the most. Suspending that right is not acceptable. That is why this lawsuit is so important,” commented SAF founder and Executive Vice President, Alan Gottlieb.
“Sheriff Baker’s unconstitutional actions have and will deprive law-abiding, peaceable individuals the opportunity to obtain handguns, the ‘quintessential self-defense weapon’ according to the U.S. Supreme Court, in a time where the arms are most needed,” explained attorney and FPC Director of Legal Strategy, Adam Kraut. “Sheriff Baker’s actions to stop processing and issuing required Pistol Purchase Permits violate fundamental human rights. We are proud to join GRNC and SAF in this fight to defend the rights of North Carolinians.” Individual arms applicants/purchasers and retailers affected by ‘stay-home’ or shutdown orders can report potential civil rights violations to FPC’s COVID-19 Issue Hotline at Plaintiffs are represented by attorneys Ed Green, Raymond M. DiGuiseppe, and Adam Kraut. Grass Roots North Carolina ( is North Carolina’s most effective gun rights organization. GRNC was founded in 1994 as an independent, all-volunteer 501(c)(4) not-for-profit organization dedicated to preserving constitutional freedoms. The organization’s projects are primarily devoted to defending the individual right to keep and bear arms. Second Amendment Foundation ( is the nation’s oldest and largest tax-exempt education, research, publishing, and legal action group focusing on the Constitutional right and heritage to privately own and possess firearms. Founded in 1974, The Foundation has grown to more than 650,000 members and supporters and conducts many programs designed to better inform the public about the consequences of gun control. Firearms Policy Coalition ( is a 501(c)4 grassroots nonprofit organization. FPC’s mission is to protect and defend the Constitution of the United States, especially the fundamental, individual Second Amendment right to keep and bear arms, advance individual liberty, and restore freedom.


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Baker did not stop taking applications for the Jim Crow era pistol permits and concealed carry permits due to the virus "crisis." He used the crisis as an excuse to infringe on our Second Amendment rights. This was just his and his idiot lawyer's excuse. It was just like his closing the Wake County Firearms Training Center. This is a pattern and practice of denying the citizens of Wake County's civil rights.

Baker is an ignorant, racist, and frankly embarrassing excuse for a Sheriff and due to the changing demographics in NC, the first of many.

He spoke during the Wake County demonrat Commissioners' "Stay at Home Order" news conference Thursday. He could not put together a coherent sentence. He never answered a single question, just babbled nonsense.

The lawsuit filed today will have to wait its turn in line with the outrageous numbre of other lawsuits this incompetent sheriff has had filed against him. He is costing Wake County taxpayers enormous amounts of money and there are several suits pending which two attorneys have told me will result in seven figure settlements and perhaps eight figure judgements if they go to trial.

IF five registered voters of Wake County would get together and file a petition for removal for his willful refusal to discharge his lawful (statutorily required) duties, he could be removed from office.

This would be a better and faster remedy to his malfeasance than the federal lawsuit which will take months or years to be settled.


NC General Statutes -Chapter 128

Article 21

Article 2. Removal of Unfit Officers.

§ 128-16. Officers subject to removal; for what offenses.Any sheriff or police officer shall be removed from office by the judge of the superior court, resident in or holding the courts of the district where said officer is resident upon charges made in writing, and hearing thereunder, for the following causes:

(1)For willful or habitual neglect or refusal to perform the duties of his office.

(2)For willful misconduct or maladministration in office.

(3)For corruption.

(4)For extortion.

(5)Upon conviction of a felony.

(6)For intoxication, or upon conviction of being intoxicated.

§ 128-17. Petition for removal; county attorney to prosecute.The complaint or petition shall be entitled in the name of the State of North Carolina, and may be filed upon the relation of any five qualified electors of the county in which the person charged is an officer, upon the approval of the county attorney of such county, or the district attorney of the district, or by any such officer upon his own motion. It shall be the duty of the county attorney or district attorney to appear and prosecute this proceeding.

§ 128-18. Petition filed with clerk; what it shall contain; answer.

The accused shall be named as defendant, and the petition shall be signed by some elector, or by such officer. The petition shall state the charges against the accused, and may be amended, and shall be filed in the office of the clerk of the superior court of the county in which the person charged is an officer. The accused may at any time prior to the time fixed for hearing file in the office of the clerk of the superior court his answer, which shall be verified.

§ 128-19. Suspension pending hearing; how vacancy filled.Upon the filing of the petition in the office of the clerk of the superior court, and the presentation of the same to the judge, the judge may suspend the accused from office if in his judgment sufficient cause appear from the petition and affidavit, or affidavits, which may be presented in support of the charges contained therein. In case of suspension, as herein provided, the temporary vacancy shall be filled in the manner provided by law for filling of the vacancies in such office.

§ 128-20. Precedence on calendar; costs.In the trial of the cause in the superior court the cause shall be advanced and take precedence over all other causes upon the court calendar, and shall be heard at the next session after the petition is filed, provided the proceedings are filed in said court in time for said action to be heard. The superior court shall fix the time of hearing. If the final termination of such proceedings be favorable
NC General Statutes -Chapter 128 Article 22to any accused officer, said officer shall be allowed the reasonable and necessary expense, including a reasonable attorney fee, to be fixed by the judge, he has incurred in making his defense, by the county, if he be a county officer, or by the city or town in which he holds office, if he be a city officer. If the action is instituted upon the complaint of citizens as herein provided, and it appears to the court that there was no reasonable cause for filing the complaint, the costs may be taxed against the complaining parties.


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Sheriff Baker just blinked...

In a separate lawsuit filed in NC Superior court, Sheriff Baker just entered into a consent decree to restart accepting and processing Pistol Purchase Permits.

Note that this is a separate lawsuit from the one filed last week by GOA and GRNC in Federal court. This suit seeks remedy for both the NC Pistol Purchase Permits and the NC Concealed Carry Handgun permit.

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Trump said that gun stores are critical during this emergency; this sheriff needs to be in his own jail
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