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Hi all,

I've been looking for a nice kydex rig for my Third Issue DS for some time now, ever since Tom/CRebralfix got me hooked on my Shotist kydex deep IWB holster for J-frames - perfect for carrying appendix-style. You can't get much more concealed than with one of these holsters - virtually no printing at all, but the gun is easily accessible. I've got a Shotist for my J-frame snub and for my 3" K-frame; here's a pic of the K-frame 3" IWB using the Shotist:



Tom offered to make me one for my Detective Special, but this would have required sending the gun to him and back, so we'd be looking at a $100 minimum mailing bill, plus FFL fees. Not a starter. I like a hard-shell holster for a revolver, though, because it keeps the cylinder from rocking back and forth as I move throughout the day. I feel this is especially important with the Colts and their voodoo lockwork - I can fix a S&W, but a Colt is another story!

Anyhow, I saw that Grandfather Oak advertised that they made kydex holsters for the Detective Specials. I called and talked to them about a deep-sitting holster for my appendix-carry for my DS, and they told me about a new, as yet unnamed holster they'd developed.

http://www.grandfatheroak.com/

David told me that it was a tuckable, and that it only had one clip. I liked that, as the dual clip IWBs strike me as way too wide. I'm not usually big on the tuckable option, but figured that I didn't have to use it that way. I gave them my credit card number and they billed me the amazingly affordable $45 - that INCLUDES shipping, folks. :eek:

Grandfather Oak said that they were running about 8 weeks out when I ordered April 13th, but that they hoped to get it to me sooner. When the eight weeks came and went, I called them and learned they were a bit behind (partially because the brand-new holster style required some attention from a seamstress). Anyway, it came today (June 29th). So, here's what showed up in the mail (not the gun, of course).

Front side


Back side


Showing how the tuckable option works


Notice that the screws are adjustable for three different carry positions. I put it on the middle, and am pretty happy with it - nice and deep, and I can still get a grip for a fast draw.

The kydex is of regular thin grade - plenty stiff enough. The holster is molded well enough that a fully-loaded DS doesn't fall out when held upside-down. There's a bit of a sweat shield, which I appreciate, as I really like the way this revolver's bluing looks.



Here's how it looks. First, the way I usually carry it, appendix IWB. I usually put a cover garment over it - I don't mess with tucking.



But I got a wild hair, and thought you guys would like to see what it looks like tucked. So I gave it a shot. I was really pleased; quite surprised, really.











Gina, who knows how and where I usually carry, looked carefully and could not see that I had a gun on. Not bad. Darn good, in fact. Way better than I'd hoped.

Caveat: this holster definitely relies upon friction from the body and the waistband/belt to keep the heavy gun properly situated. It does not seem like it would work perfectly through strenuous activity. I would definitely want to have a solid belt strapping this rig in, pressing the holster and gun into my abdomen, to ensure that it stays placed properly. The clip and the extension that connect it to the holster will allow the gun to dip down on a diagonal otherwise.

The clip is super, BTW, and is a bear to remove from the pants. It's just that a heavy gun like the DS, loaded with six heavy rounds, is a little more than the connector can handle - the loaded rig will rotate in the waistband without some sort of compression from without.

I will try it out for a while, but think it'll work. It appears that I can adjust the holster from the outside of the pants if it should start to tilt. It also seems that a decent amount of attention to properly tightening the belt should make this not a big chore. Nevertheless, I suspect that repositioning the thing (just sort of involves a slight scratching motion in the pocket - doesn't look like I'm scratching anything untoward and can be entirely concealed w/i the front pocket) will be periodically necessary with this rig.

Heck of a deal for $45. :)
 

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Erich,

Great post. Those pics are very detailed. Any chance of seeing the DS out of the holster? Those grips look great.
It looks like a decent price for all the work that seems to be put into the holster.
 

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Thanks, Dave.

I wore the holster today on a vigorous walk in the heat. Sweat shield worked perfectly, protecting the gun. The well-molded kydex was not in the least "pinchy". When I cinched my belt tight, the rig/gun stayed right where I put it - no problems with shifting at all, even on a fast 4.5 mile walk.

Per your request, here are some other pix of the DS - comparing it to a CS. :)











And, before I put the Badger stocks on it:


Just the DS with the Badgers . . .
 

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lgnngp Those photos are terrific. Those Badger grips really add to the DS. I like the coke bottle swell.

The pinto is cool too. thanks01
 

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Thank you, Dave; you're very kind. :) The Badgers are "butterbean" smooth and comfortable, and really do the trick. The "FrankenPinto" is the result of a Chiefs I bought on GB last year only to learn that someone had "worked" on it, and it wouldn't function (no fault of the seller's; it seemed mechanically perfect and he'd not test-fired it) . . . so I used some spare parts that I had around to get it running. It's fugly, but it does work great. :cool:
 

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Great photos! I'm not a fan of Kydex, but I may have to reconsider. How 'bout a Colt 1911 carried at the small of one's back? You wouldn't happen to know if they make something for that, would you?
 

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That is slick-looking. I've avoided leather for IWB during the summer because I sweat, but a deep kydex holster might be just the ticket especially since I've never been completely comfortable with pocket carry. I do it - a lot - but I'd prefer something quicker and accessible to both hands. I'm going to peruse their website. Thanks, Erich.

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Gee, Dave, why didn't I think of that? Sure enough, they do make one for the 1911. And, they aren't that expensive. I think I'll give them a call and ask if they can angle that clip on device at 45 degrees so that the butt is more accessible in a small-of-the-back carry. I don't know if that FBI forward cant would be enough.
 

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Thanks for the nice words, gents. Let us know if you wind up liking what you get! :)
 

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Just one thing........Kydex does mark up your gun. I don't own one, but......"I hoid it tru da grapevine" fhfjjjj Bob
 

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True dat. But it holds the cylinder steady as I move around and doesn't allow wear to the bolt. On a Colt that's a working gun, that's a good thing.

So, I've now worn this on several strenuous hikes, and worn it tucked past hundreds of people without issue. Works well. kfjdrfirii
 
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