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·They're not Colts 
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Finally figured out what is wrong with Kimbers....
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·Kimber has definitely gotten to big for their pants...they put demands on the small stocking dealers that no one would want. Minimum order levels that would break the bank for most Mom and Pop shops...
Personally, I think their guns suck! How's that. I've owned more then a few and think it's all hype and hoopla! :mrgreen: They have the biggest marketing team on the planet for their 1911's...so who cares?
I'm sure the Edsel was well marketed...
Now, before anyone gets their short's in a twist...I have a Stainless II Carry that you couldn't get me to part with...It runs fantastic. But it is not the norm and rather the exception...
Not a rant, just expressing the pure dissapointment I've experienced with most Kimbers. In a nutshell, I do not think they are worth a premium over other 1911 platform guns...
Going to make the PopCorn...
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Personally, I think their guns suck! How's that. I've owned more then a few and think it's all hype and hoopla! :mrgreen: They have the biggest marketing team on the planet for their 1911's...so who cares?
I'm sure the Edsel was well marketed...
Now, before anyone gets their short's in a twist...I have a Stainless II Carry that you couldn't get me to part with...It runs fantastic. But it is not the norm and rather the exception...
Not a rant, just expressing the pure dissapointment I've experienced with most Kimbers. In a nutshell, I do not think they are worth a premium over other 1911 platform guns...
Going to make the PopCorn...
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I've owned a fair share of Series II Kimbers and have not had a problem with any of them. TLE's, Raptors, Warriors.........
That being said, I no longer own any Series II's (except for the wife's Pro Carry II).
The one I will never part with is my 12 year old pre-Series II, built in June of '96.
Oddly enough, I had a lot of failures with that one (it was NIB) and after tweaking the extractor, polishing the breech face and pick up rail, it has run like a champ ever since.
That being said, I no longer own any Series II's (except for the wife's Pro Carry II).
The one I will never part with is my 12 year old pre-Series II, built in June of '96.
Oddly enough, I had a lot of failures with that one (it was NIB) and after tweaking the extractor, polishing the breech face and pick up rail, it has run like a champ ever since.
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·Shaun :mrgreen:
To be fair, the Kimbers seem to need a greater break in period then most other 1911's. Without putting at least 500 rounds of hardball through them, they are prone to issues. Groups tighten and they seem to smooth out after that. Also, they do not seem to like grease. Perhaps they are built to tight and need to wear in...
I truly believe that is why you find so many used one's in near new condition for sale.
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To be fair, the Kimbers seem to need a greater break in period then most other 1911's. Without putting at least 500 rounds of hardball through them, they are prone to issues. Groups tighten and they seem to smooth out after that. Also, they do not seem to like grease. Perhaps they are built to tight and need to wear in...
I truly believe that is why you find so many used one's in near new condition for sale.
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I traded a Colt Defender for a Custom II, I traded the Kimber for a Yugo AK very quickly. The Kimber was so finicky with mags. All the mags I had for 1911's did not want to work properly for some reason. The only one it accepted was the Mec-gar(I think that's what they're called). I had even ordered the Desert warrior style grips before I got the gun home. I have a friend that has a stainless one, not sure what model, but he has put thousands of rounds through his and he loves it. I do miss that little Defender and feel sick whenever I see one because the owner is usually smiling. James
for a Custom II, I traded the Kimber for a Yugo AK very quickly. The Kimber was so finicky with mags. All the mags I had for 1911's did not want to work properly for some reason. The only one it accepted was the Mec-gar(I think that's what they're called). I had even ordered the Desert warrior style grips before I got the gun home. I have a friend that has a stainless one, not sure what model, but he has put thousands of rounds through his and he loves it. I do miss that little Defender and feel sick whenever I see one because the owner is usually smiling. James
I have not heard much good about the kimber series II I do own a Kimber classic stainless target and a kimber classic stainless. Both are excellent shooter and very reliable with whatever I feed them.
They did recently fire a friend of mine who was in sales. He was making over $100,000 a year. Now they have lost most of his clients because what they did to him. He didn't even let it be known he was fired but word got out. Kimber has really stepped into it the last few years. I won't buy a new one.
John
They did recently fire a friend of mine who was in sales. He was making over $100,000 a year. Now they have lost most of his clients because what they did to him. He didn't even let it be known he was fired but word got out. Kimber has really stepped into it the last few years. I won't buy a new one.
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I had a Gold Cup for decades with which I had become quite pleased....about 10 years ago a buddy showed off his Kimber Custom Target.....it was SO accurate.... I managed to shuffle a few unused things around to trade into a brand new Custom Target.
It has proven to be such a great performer, I've wondered what to do with my old boat-anchor Gold Cup....
Perhaps I was merely fortunate. The Kimber stays in any case.
It has proven to be such a great performer, I've wondered what to do with my old boat-anchor Gold Cup....
Perhaps I was merely fortunate. The Kimber stays in any case.
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I've had two Kimbers. The one with the external extractor worked like a charm, while the one with the internal extractor never did. Go figure.
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·You haven't been limp-wristing again, have you? :mrgreen:shortranger said:
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Seriously, can you actually limp-wrist a 1911? I wouldn't think it possible. Maybe if it had pink grips or something....
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·With the Kimbers, you have to hold them ~ gangsta' style
Now if everyone here can just picture Walter doing this..... :mrgreen:
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Now if everyone here can just picture Walter doing this..... :mrgreen:
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I have purchased three (3) Kimbers.
1. A Kimber Pro CDP II .45. It would not run a magazine without a FTF or FTE. I sent it back twice to the Kimber Shop and they screwed around with it both times and said that they had fixed it. If never did run correctly for anyone that shot it. I sold it at a real loss but did tell the person that purchased it the problems that I had had with it. Good riddance.....
2. A Kimber Super Match II (Kimber calls it their high end custom .45). I sent it back twice to the Kimber Custom Shop to try to fix the ongoing FTF/FTE problems I was having with it. Both times, they told me that it was fixed but it was not. They told me that I must not be shooting it correctly. The problem was I have been shooting a number of 1911's over the past 40 years and this was not happening with any of my other 1911's. I finally decided to send it to the Novak Custom .45 Shop and they did some work on it and when it came back it has run perfectly ever since. This told me the problem really was with the Kimber Shop.
3. In December 2008, I had the opporunity to purchase a used Kimber Ultra CDP II .45 for a very good price. I took it out and shot 100 rounds through it and had no FTF/FTE's so I did buy it. I like the compact size of it and carry it as an off-duty and BUG and it has served me well for the past few months.
My feelings on Kimbers is that they are a crap shoot, you may get a great shooting one or one that you can't trust to work. I like the two Kimbers that I have but I don't know that I will buy any more of them.....
1. A Kimber Pro CDP II .45. It would not run a magazine without a FTF or FTE. I sent it back twice to the Kimber Shop and they screwed around with it both times and said that they had fixed it. If never did run correctly for anyone that shot it. I sold it at a real loss but did tell the person that purchased it the problems that I had had with it. Good riddance.....
2. A Kimber Super Match II (Kimber calls it their high end custom .45). I sent it back twice to the Kimber Custom Shop to try to fix the ongoing FTF/FTE problems I was having with it. Both times, they told me that it was fixed but it was not. They told me that I must not be shooting it correctly. The problem was I have been shooting a number of 1911's over the past 40 years and this was not happening with any of my other 1911's. I finally decided to send it to the Novak Custom .45 Shop and they did some work on it and when it came back it has run perfectly ever since. This told me the problem really was with the Kimber Shop.
3. In December 2008, I had the opporunity to purchase a used Kimber Ultra CDP II .45 for a very good price. I took it out and shot 100 rounds through it and had no FTF/FTE's so I did buy it. I like the compact size of it and carry it as an off-duty and BUG and it has served me well for the past few months.
My feelings on Kimbers is that they are a crap shoot, you may get a great shooting one or one that you can't trust to work. I like the two Kimbers that I have but I don't know that I will buy any more of them.....
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5 years ago I shot a Kimber Team match pistol. It had the external extractor. The gun had a bad barrel from the get go. It was all pitted inside like the casting was not cleaning up after all the final machining was done.
I sent it back (at my expense) so they could replace the barrel. When finished they sort of lost my gun, they sent it to the guy I bought it from instead of sending it back to me.
I test fired it and it ran well, the barrel was fit very well, but it was not that accurate. I tuned the gun myself and it would shoot nearly one hole groups after I fixed the trigger and barrel bushing.
Even though it was finally super accurate and reliable I traded it for my first Ed Brown pistol.
I think Kimber makes a good production pistol, but the team match that I owned was a monday gun to say the least. It was lacking in quality. I should not have to send guns back to fix right out of the box!
I sent it back (at my expense) so they could replace the barrel. When finished they sort of lost my gun, they sent it to the guy I bought it from instead of sending it back to me.
I test fired it and it ran well, the barrel was fit very well, but it was not that accurate. I tuned the gun myself and it would shoot nearly one hole groups after I fixed the trigger and barrel bushing.
Even though it was finally super accurate and reliable I traded it for my first Ed Brown pistol.
I think Kimber makes a good production pistol, but the team match that I owned was a monday gun to say the least. It was lacking in quality. I should not have to send guns back to fix right out of the box!
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Nothing else is and that's OK. I had a Stainless Ultra Carry and it worked like it should.Gizamo said:They're not Colts
Had an opportunity to upgrade to an Ultra CDP and I never looked back. Fabulous
carry .45! Reliable and accurate shooter. Yes, I've broken them in with hundreds of rounds,
I thought that was supposed to be part of the fun.
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