Favorite Shotgun for HD?
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Pretty easy, actually. Any of the pumps will work great in this roll. Mossburg 500, Remington 870, Winchester 1200/1300, etc. I like 12g but many folks like the 20 for home defense. 18 inch for me but 20 may give you an extra round with the appropriate tube extension.
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My brother swears by the Ithaca bottom eject {Browning makes one too} for a truley ambidexterous pump gun {20 gauge}. My opinion is that in a hallway distance, the choke won't matter much and a 20 may give the edge for a follow up shot. 18 to 20 inch for ease of use
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Since we closed up the farm and moved back to town I actually have two HD Shotguns whereas before I had a shotgun and a carbine.
Both shotguns are 12 gauge Remington 870's.
The "inside" shotgun lives in my bedroom closet and has an 18" open choke barrel, 2 shot extension Mepro illuminated bead front sight. Nothing else to to get hung up or malfunction if I need it upclose and personal and in a hurry. It's loaded with Buckshot.
The "outside" shotgun lives secured in a gun rack in the living room. It is a 20" Improved Cylinder barrel, Surefire flashlight forend, Wilson Combat sling w/ ammo, Mepro Bead, Hogue Overmolded stocks and a 3 shot magazine extension. This shotgun is loaded with Slugs with Buckshot readily available.
Speaking of buckshot... the best kept secret in Home Defense Shotgunning is Federal's Catalog No. F130 00, "Powershok" load.... 12, 00 Buck Pellets (instead of 8) in a 2 3/4" Magnum Load... 1290 FPS. These shells will pattern all the pellets in the center of a B27 target from either of my guns at 25 yards.
Drew
Both shotguns are 12 gauge Remington 870's.
The "inside" shotgun lives in my bedroom closet and has an 18" open choke barrel, 2 shot extension Mepro illuminated bead front sight. Nothing else to to get hung up or malfunction if I need it upclose and personal and in a hurry. It's loaded with Buckshot.
The "outside" shotgun lives secured in a gun rack in the living room. It is a 20" Improved Cylinder barrel, Surefire flashlight forend, Wilson Combat sling w/ ammo, Mepro Bead, Hogue Overmolded stocks and a 3 shot magazine extension. This shotgun is loaded with Slugs with Buckshot readily available.
Speaking of buckshot... the best kept secret in Home Defense Shotgunning is Federal's Catalog No. F130 00, "Powershok" load.... 12, 00 Buck Pellets (instead of 8) in a 2 3/4" Magnum Load... 1290 FPS. These shells will pattern all the pellets in the center of a B27 target from either of my guns at 25 yards.
Drew
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We take this old 1931 Remington Model 11 seriously for household shotgun defense. I got the gun from its original owner. It came with two barrels and I added a sawed off "hose" barrel. It gives very reliable function for me in the duck blind.
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Bryan,
We must've been twins separated at birth....(even though you're much better lookin'
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As usual, one of your favorites is also a family gun of mine... I cut my teeth on the "Old Humpback".....
I've got 12 Gauge Remington Model 11's here in about 8 or 9 combinations of barrel lengths, chokes and ribs as well as three in 20 Gauge including a particularly lively 3-Shot "Sportsman".
Drew
We must've been twins separated at birth....(even though you're much better lookin'
)As usual, one of your favorites is also a family gun of mine... I cut my teeth on the "Old Humpback".....
I've got 12 Gauge Remington Model 11's here in about 8 or 9 combinations of barrel lengths, chokes and ribs as well as three in 20 Gauge including a particularly lively 3-Shot "Sportsman".
Drew
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My recommendation is to avoid anything that doesn't have a proper buttstock. Those pistol grip shotgun rigs might look fearsome and handy to transport, but they are slower to put on target and forward heavy enough to make you shoot way too low in a panic. Also, with no buttstock to use as leverage and brace against your body, they can be easily redirected or taken from you by your opponent in close quarters.
I have my favorites, too. Like some of the previous fellows, I prefer the recoil-operated humpback Browning design in an auto - Remington, Savage, FN. They are all reliable.
2nd behind the semi-auto would be the Winchester M-12 pump. They hold 6-shots when fully loaded and aren't too barrel-heavy at that. I've seen several nice M-12s come through my local Cabela's with riot-length barrels and priced at ~$200 because of the abbreviated barrels. I hesitated each time for a day or so, and when I went back they were gone.
For home defense, I prefer a wooden buttstock - not because of aesthetics, but for the extra weight. At home, you are not likely to be carrying it for extended periods, and the extra weight will go a long way toward mollifying recoil and help you to get off more precise subsequent shots.
Photos and video clips I've seen of the Posse Comatatus brigades running around in the woods around here indicate that they prefer the black fiberglass and the pistol grips. :lol:
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I have my favorites, too. Like some of the previous fellows, I prefer the recoil-operated humpback Browning design in an auto - Remington, Savage, FN. They are all reliable.
2nd behind the semi-auto would be the Winchester M-12 pump. They hold 6-shots when fully loaded and aren't too barrel-heavy at that. I've seen several nice M-12s come through my local Cabela's with riot-length barrels and priced at ~$200 because of the abbreviated barrels. I hesitated each time for a day or so, and when I went back they were gone.
For home defense, I prefer a wooden buttstock - not because of aesthetics, but for the extra weight. At home, you are not likely to be carrying it for extended periods, and the extra weight will go a long way toward mollifying recoil and help you to get off more precise subsequent shots.
Photos and video clips I've seen of the Posse Comatatus brigades running around in the woods around here indicate that they prefer the black fiberglass and the pistol grips. :lol:
xtm
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Yep, that's who I'm referring to.toroflow said:
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Here's my same ol' Remington Model 11 in it's duck hunting configuration, wearing it's original modified barrel. The fellow in the black hat and tan coveralls, holding the Savage Model 720 is my brother-in-law. He's pointing at the runty Beretta .22 with which he stopped a wounded duck from swimming away from 40 yards away. We'd both planned to use our Browning designed auto-loader shotguns on this hunt.
Drew, you'd have to work awfully hard in order to be uglier'n me.
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Drew, you'd have to work awfully hard in order to be uglier'n me.
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All these here youngsters with their fancy-pants tactical wactical black whiz-bang pumps and autoloaders........
My bedroom is guarded by a 12 ga., double barrel Baikal "Bounty Hunter" coach gun with 20 in. barrels.
But I am really "old school".
My bedroom is guarded by a 12 ga., double barrel Baikal "Bounty Hunter" coach gun with 20 in. barrels.
But I am really "old school".
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I heard from our common friend that there is a 6 lbs Napoleon also close at hand.... now that's really "Old School".... :clap: :clap:Lord Slashcat said:
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For various reasons my preferred HD gun is a handgun, but on the odd chance that I might have to go outside with it I do keep handy an 18" 870 loaded with 00 and slugs.
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I'm with shortranger on this one. Inside the house I use a handgun. It sucks using a long gun in close quarters. It takes a lot of training. It's not easy getting around corners. If you are not careful. The bad guy may just take your gun. Or at least shove it out of the way. Long enough to get away or get you. In the odd event I would have to go outside. It could be a shotgun or some other rifle. For my wife she has a model 1100 with a 24" rifled sight barrel. I would rather she used an 870 she is not familiar with that gun. She knows the 1100 well. She shot a lot of trap and skeet with it. A lot of my friends ask me what shotgun should I use for HD. I tell them in IMHO use a handgun. My choice for a shotgun would be a rem 870. Simply because I have a lot of experience with it. I guess it all goes back to the training. I trained with the 870. So I'm rather fond of that shotgun.
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