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Isn't that Portland, home of the snowflakes from Kalifornia? I look at Oregon is an almost lost cause.
 

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Good to know, and I hope them the best, but it ain't looking good for Oregon. I don't know what has happened to the West Coast, but it is a mess now.
The influx of people from California explains some of it, but not all, there is a missing element somewhere.

I think that like a lot of America, Oregon has become soft and socialist, there a lot of socialists now. There a so many people who are drawn to socialism, and it is perverse.
The public schools are to blame for a lot of that, but not all. America is flakey in so many ways now, and it is showing up in Oregon, before it moves to the middle of America.
 

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Good to know, and I hope them the best, but it ain't looking good for Oregon. I don't know what has happened to the West Coast, but it is a mess now.
The influx of people from California explains some of it, but not all, there is a missing element somewhere.

I think that like a lot of America, Oregon has become soft and socialist, there a lot of socialists now. There a so many people who are drawn to socialism, and it is perverse.
The public schools are to blame for a lot of that, but not all. America is flakey in so many ways now, and it is showing up in Oregon, before it moves to the middle of America.
You've pretty much have hit on the reasons... the die was cast decades ago and it is now culminating into what's taking place today.

You have generations spawned in the 80's and 90's that were the products of liberal/progressive parents, incubated by liberal schools, and turned into the wave of progressives, that left CA to invade Oregon & Washington looking for a lower cost of living. In 2015, it was estimated that 5 million people left CA during the previous 10 years, and it hasn't slowed down much.

In the mean time the "boomers", who are largely conservative, have been dying off, with "replacements" lagging behind and unable to offset the influx of US born and "imported" liberals.

I fear if the generation born during the last decade is cycled into the voter roles by lowering the voting age to 16, it's game over and we'll be on the way to becoming the United Socialist States of America.
 

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Salem is the capital. I attended the rally.
I stand corrected then but when I think of Oregon I think of Portland. When I think of Portland, I think of snowflakes. Kind of like Illinois. When you think of Illinois, you think of Chicago, not Springfield which is the State Capitol. or here in Michigan, who thinks of Lansing as the state capitol. Not many I guess.

In a way, I'm glad I reside in a state that is so far not impacted by the socialist agenda but who knows, we now have a Democrat governor. So far, I'm not impressed at all. Saving grace here is the house and senate is solid Republican for what that is worth.

The 'plague' does seem to be spreading daily. Guess the only way to stem it is be vocal and pro-active.
 

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You've pretty much have hit on the reasons... the die was cast decades ago and it is now culminating into what's taking place today.

You have generations spawned in the 80's and 90's that were the products of liberal/progressive parents, incubated by liberal schools, and turned into the wave of progressives, that left CA to invade Oregon & Washington looking for a lower cost of living. In 2015, it was estimated that 5 million people left CA during the previous 10 years, and it hasn't slowed down much.

In the mean time the "boomers", who are largely conservative, have been dying off, with "replacements" lagging behind and unable to offset the influx of US born and "imported" liberals.

I fear if the generation born during the last decade is cycled into the voter roles by lowering the voting age to 16, it's game over and we'll be on the way to becoming the United Socialist States of America.
From what I see, it's pretty much a done deal. Glad I'm old and just about done. I figure I have at best, maybe 6 years of freedom with firearms left and then it's pretty much finished. I might skate a bit longer in as much as most of what I own is considered sporting long guns, not handguns or the dreaded 'black guns'. It's coming, fueled by ignorance and the media and a bunch of politicians that want total control over the masses.

Best part of the Socialist States of Amerika is the media will be the second in line to get it. Freedom of Speech and Freedom of the press will be one of the first things to get the axe, right behind total gun confiscation because an unarmed society is a society unable to defend itself against a government bent on total control.

Just I just say that? Sure did. 20 years ago I would have never given it a thought. Times have changed and not for the good either.
 

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I'm hopeful that the pendulum has swung about as far to the left as it is going to.

President Trump's election and popularity is the leading indicator. More and more thinking people are turning away from the drivel promoted by the MSM every day. The agenda they are pushing isn't as popular with our youth as they try to make us think. Remember, these are the same people who were trying to convince us all that Hitlery would win by a landslide right up to and including the day of the 2016 election.

Confiscating 300 million guns owned by over 100 million people isn't something that is going to happen overnight. Those in power recognize that we aren't going to line up to surrender them. Even in Australia only a small fraction of the privately held firearms were surrendered when the government decided to make it the law.

While President Trump is a key figure, but he isn't our messiah. Someone will step up to take up his mantle when he completes his second term. All is not lost. I believe that we are nearing a tipping point where people are going to revolt against all these machinations and maneuvers by the left. It may come to armed insurrection, but I don't think freedom will be stamped out in this country in my lifetime. I pray that we can correct the course without resorting to armed conflict.

It would take at least another couple of generations moving steadily left for them to gain total control. I think things will swing back to the right again before that happens. But like Daryl, I am glad I won't be here to see it if it doesn't.
 

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BE8B7AC4-FF7E-4BA9-B351-B86DE4448977.jpeg D8729EF9-A17D-4979-9AE6-71C8BBB6ECF7.jpeg Portland is the defacto capitol of Oregon. It’s tentacles extend down the I-5 corridor, to Eugene, and start to weaken at the Springfield Cabelas store...

Salem is the legal capitol.
 

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It's interesting to see this pattern repeated over and over again on so many different levels and in so many places.

A population slowly drifts into an impossible form of governance with corrupt politicians, unfair taxes, extreme governmental control over private lives and intolerance of liberty. Think: California, New York, Syria, Tunisia, or Libya.

The population is unable to turn back the tide of tyranny that they have contributed to creating and slowly tolerated as it grew in influence and power, so - in a fit of self preservation, they say "Enough" and leave.

What do they do? They travel to somewhere that is unspoiled. Oregon, Western Europe, The American South... And what do they do once they arrive? They do everything they can to recreate the complete mess they made of the place they just escaped from.

There is never a thought of assimilation into a culture that works, only work to dominate those that have shown great tolerance in even letting them resettle in their new homes.

If I'm not mistaken, this is the pattern of a disease called "Cancer". I guess that there are any number of different kinds of poison.
 
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