[MWAG]

OC and CC are a spectrum, from mouse guns tucked deep inside to shiny BBQ guns worn to show them off, with many scenarios in between. One can wear an OWB holster with a jacket or other cover garment for partial concealment, comfort, and easy access, but might run afoul of the law. I wouldn’t call that OC, but the law might. Many CC laws tend to punish about 90% of that carry spectrum. “Brief and inadvertent exposure” while reaching the top shelf in the grocery store is an example. The existence of a law and our innate compulsion to be law-abiding (so we don’t lose our right to own a gun) are what force us to be at each others throats about this. If there were no 2A infringement, we wouldn’t be as divided on the subject.

 

[mrerick]

One time, when waiting at the hospital Lab for some tests, I looked across the room and saw an older gentleman also waiting. He had an unusually large belt buckle. When I looked closer, I realized that mounted in it was a fully functional and very openly visible derringer. Nice...

He was in violation of North Carolina law for having it on the hospital's grounds (it's an educational institution, too) but I had to admire his pluck for openly carrying it concealed in plain sight...

 

[ez9ez9]

OC is legal in Texas.

One of the other pluses about it is: “Brief and inadvertent exposure” while reaching the top shelf in the grocery store is 'No problem' assuming you have a License to Carry.

So, even those who don't care to OC also benefit...

 

[Bob K]

I don't think it should be a violation, if exposed inadvertantly, while reaching for something. It does happen, but liberals are overly sensitive to the sight of a gun. Bob

 

[mrerick]

There is even a word for it. "Hoplophobia".

Open carry is legal in North Carolina. Around here, and especially in our urban areas, liberal loons suffering this phobia will call police on the sight of a lawfully open carried firearm...

Just another reason why permitless or "constitutional" concealed carry is so important. Why upset them needlessly?

 

[ez9ez9]

mre,

"Why upset them needlessly?"

I don't understand - would you please elaborate?

Thanks!

 

[Keith44Spl]

When I was working...out on the rural route.
Dispatch would get a few "a man with a gun" calls.

Complainant: There's a man wearing a pistol in the quik sack !
Dispatch: Wearing a pistol in the quik sack you say...is it in a holster?
Complainant: Yes !
Dispatch: Is the man flourishing the pistol around?
Complainant: No. He's buying an RC and a Moon Pie.
Dispatch: Madam, You do know this is the 911 line, for life threating emergencies...
Please call our non-emergency number when it is not an emergency.

Complaint: Is this the Sheriff's Office
Deputy: Yes it is.
Complaint: there's a lot of gun fire going on this morning !
Deputy: Yes there is....It's opening morning of deer season.

Some folks worry about other folks business way too much.

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[mrerick]

As a courtesy, I carry concealed so that I am not the first one singled out as a target in a lethal force incident.

Besides, why excite the hoplophobes unnecessarily? They have so many other things to confuse and entertain them than me walking through Walmart...

The serious point is that my carrying a firearm is none of their business... and yes, I was being cynical.

 

[Bob K]

Even if I could open carry (no way in Mass!), I prefer to melt into the crowd, rather than stand out. I will wear a larger jacket to keep it concealed, at all times. I prefer the 'car coat length" to keep it concealed, even when I reach above my head. In summer, I wear somewhat baggy casual shirt and Docker pants, or a baggy pair of shorts.

I use both OWB and IWB holsters for my smaller carry guns. I only carry my larger revolvers (K frame) OWB, under a larger jacket. I suppose, if I carried a 1911, I would do the same.

But, it's really funny how you could walk down a street, and no one even notices you, most of the time. Walking down the street, I barely notice people, unless they get in my way. (Pretty girls are excluded.......I always check them out!!! (I may be old.......but I ain't dead , yet.) Bob

 

[Diabloman]

I am a fan of concealed carry. I think if you are carrying a firearm then you take on a certain responsibility of ethics and safety. I always cc. I have a pancake holster that rides high and holds my glock 19 in close & tight. I have found out over the years where I need to be and when not to be. JMHO but I think permitless carry will just bring out the "cowboys" and create more trouble.

 

[Keith44Spl]

One of my favorite rigs for concealed or open carry....

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[msharley]

I am a fan of concealed carry. I think if you are carrying a firearm then you take on a certain responsibility of ethics and safety. I always cc. I have a pancake holster that rides high and holds my glock 19 in close & tight. I have found out over the years where I need to be and when not to be. JMHO but I think permitless carry will just bring out the "cowboys" and create more trouble.

Hey D Man,

May I interject?

Several years ago, I worked down to Charleston, WVa.

W Va. is "open carry"... which a large portion of the populace did.

I did not feel "intimidated" (wish I would have brought a BBQ Rig with me, LOL). Did not observe any criminal activity in the diners and such I ate in... with a 40%+ of ARMED CITIZENS.

If folk carry Open or Concealed...their choice....the State has no business interfering with the Rights of the CITIZENRY.

My two cents...

Later, Mark

 

[Diabloman]

I don’t know if OC is legal here in ohio......I saw an older guy OC’n in Walmart....! Also a guy carrying his ptsd animal a live skunk...! I thought I’d seen it all at my age....? No Way....!

 

[Keith44Spl]

JMHO but I think permitless carry will just bring out the "cowboys" and create more trouble.

LOL,
yeah boy, us 'cowboys' sure know how to cause trouble.....for them trouble makers

Making weak kneed libs and felons nervous for over half a century

I've carried both openly and concealed, sometimes both at the same time....

A short story on why I quit the ankle holster forever and a day.

On that day, my sole armament was a model 37, carried in an ankle holster.
In a darkened building I came face to face with an ax welding suspect that I did not know was even in existence.
I was luck, and was barely able to get that lit'l bug into action.

So, what I know about carrying a personal defense firearm was obtained in the field....not something I read in an ol' book or on a gun forum.

In closing, y'all carry on...Any way ya please.

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[Bob K]

Diabloman, I agree whole heartedly!!! When you choose to carry a weapon CC, you also take the responsibility to act properly.......according to the law. I don't see a problem here. If it is carried concealed........it's concealed from sight of anyone! I have carried for many years. Sometimes I do......Sometimes I don't. NOBODY else knows!!!!

One time, I saw a guy walking down a city street, wearing complete camo, AND OPEN CARRYING!!!! Pretty stupid! He must have just got a carry permit..........and wanted to show how 'cool' he was! Typical 'jerk' that causes me to walk the other way!!! The type that gives gun carry a bad rep!!!!! Bob

 

[ez9ez9]

Some are fine with CC, but don't think OC is...sensible.

I know of one such person, who, fully informed that OC is legal in his state had the 'gall' to call the police when he spotted a man OCing, because 'HE" deemed it 'not sensible'.

Male 'karens' need to work harder at minding their own busines....

 

[ez9ez9]

BK,

I agree with the camoed OC guy being tasteless, but if what he's doing is legal, it's legal.

I see people wearing gawd-awful, garish clothing and dressing like utterly tasteless clowns, but what they wear is none of my business. I wear conservative clothing, but I wouldn't dream of trying to be a 'fashionista'.

What the 'other guy' does within the bounds of law whether it's tasteless or you 'think' it besmirching of us gun carriers isn't germane.

What the other guy does is strictly his business whether you agree with his taste or not.

 

[Bob K]

Open carry is not legal in Massatwoshits........but I've seen a few people doing it, in a country small town, much like I live in now. People don't seem to mind, away from the violent cities, but it's probably changing nowadays. Liberals from nearby cities want to live in the country, where there isn't much violence, or demonstrations. They bring with them all the negative fear of guns.

I even carry concealed when I'm out in the mountains, in case a 'tree hugger' hikes by! Bob

 

[ez9ez9]

Bob,

I don't base my very occasional OC carry because it may give some 'tree hugger' the vapors, they can faint dead away and I'd just laugh...not being snarky, just don't base my decisions on some pusillanimous (love that word) nitwit's hoplophobic fear.

 

[Bob K]

More people should learn to mind their own business!!!!!!!!! I don't concern myself with anybody else' s business. Everybody else should do the same!!!! Bob