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I threw the chicken bones .. I did a dance and spit some home brew on a fire and in my trance like state .. I had a vision. Here is what the bones predicted. See if it was the inebriants or can there be some truth.

Remember this ride that was at most carnivals


It would sway back and forth building momentum and with each return it would swing further out from center becoming more violent to the passengers. Soon it would seem that the ride that barely moved back and forth when it started is now swinging to the opposite sides of the center.

NYC in the time of my coming up was a horror show not meant for the weak. at one point the murder rate was nearly 2500 for a year. I am not sure that number has been equaled in any given year for troops in the desert. Throw in riots, rape, assault, mugging and the list of things that dont get to the same category as Murder but violently impacted everyone's life and happiness and after way to long a time .... Guilliani and his policies were welcomed with open arms. Nothing short of bold moves were going to fix things and people were just sick of it.

Now .. it is back to the liberal bastion of America in all its folly and murder rates and other violent crime is once again the normal. Not 70-90's normal but still not good.

Now we have the green hairs running amuck through America. They latched on to the BLM like a parasite. While the original discussion could have been about race its now about hating America and everything American by a group of people who benefited most of any generation from all things American.

So here is the prediction ..
The pendulum will swing violently. Many of the people that started with some commiseration on the position of Blacks in America have had their belly full since the Green hairs took over and destroyed statues, neighborhoods and businesses.

I predict a scary rise of authoritarianism. It may not come with this election but most people feel better closer to the middle and the extreme left agenda will cause backlash with rising crime rates and a real or perceived feeling of favoritism and partisanship. I dont think it will be the left that come for our guns but the right. The left has become militant and the guy with the gun who conjured fear only a short time ago was the white, right wing, boogeyman trudging around the woods with his buddies but is now a green hair standing at a makeshift barricade to conquered American territory or part of an armed guard for people tearing down American property.

Just like 9/11 brought about wholesale change in what we considered OK in regards to surveillance, privacy and the militarization of local law enforcement the events of the last few months will usher in almost Chinese people control and with it .. gun confiscation. Its all for your own safety and it will come from our own camp.

Most of us may not be here to see it .. but the chicken bones tell me it will come to pass. Be careful.
 

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I'll settle for things going back to the middle
 
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LOL! Nobody gives a DAMN about the green hairs. They're trivia.

It's blacks that did the looting and shooting and burning.

Get real.

America will not move much in any direction. Minds are made up. Battle lines are drawn.

The split is about 50/50.

But if we lose this election........(President, House and Senate) we will be on the way to losing everything.

Get out and vote this fall..........or the borders will be opened to a FLOOD of toxic aliens and new gun control laws will sprout like noxious weeds.

THAT is a REAL prediction.......no "Voodoo" poo poo about it.
 
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Well, I'll expect to see some new gun control laws passed, but I'll not live long enough to see a confiscation effort made. Sky high taxes on ammo, and a national "database" on all guns, followed by a individual gun tax. If there is anything good that has come from this childish rioting / looting game is that the people that previously were sitting on the fence about guns have seen the light, and realized that in the future if you want protection, you have to provide it on your own. My disappointment is that some looters weren't put down on the spot by business owners.
 

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Well, I'll expect to see some new gun control laws passed, but I'll not live long enough to see a confiscation effort made. Sky high taxes on ammo, and a national "database" on all guns, followed by a individual gun tax.
That's probably a dead letter (except for Congressional democrats) because of what you say below:

If there is anything good that has come from this childish rioting / looting game is that the people that previously were sitting on the fence about guns have seen the light, and realized that in the future if you want protection, you have to provide it on your own. My disappointment is that some looters weren't put down on the spot by business owners.
It becoming abundantly clear that no one can protect you and yours but yourself. Not to say that the authoritarians won't try for gun control, but the people won't be as likely to swallow it this time. Note the record gun sales- mostly to middle-left first time buyers.
 
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Said all along, if Biden gets in, kiss your guns goodbye. Even if lost in a boating accident better be able to prove that accident happened.
 

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Boriqua I think you swallowed too much shine before you started spiting it on the fire. It's the leftist coming for our rights and if biden wins and we loose the Senate and they keep the House we are in Trouble. President Trump needs more voters this time around because the democraps will have more. This election is a power struggle for the Country.
 

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You can quote chicken bones in jest or read the Bible seriously. The conclusion is the same. As I see it, Boriqua called it.

My concern and sad feelings are not whether hubby and I will still be here, but for what kind of horrendous world my granddaughters and their significant others will be barely surviving in.
 

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I used the bones in jest but

I don't much care what party affiliation my oppressor has. Just that he is my oppressor.
Think it through .. what I am saying is DONT be slave to a party. I have always voted Right because the messaging makes sense to me but I am far more a libertarian. I think both parties suck and I pick the one that sucks less.

So here is what I see going down and any of you should see it to.

We have had a good solid taste of the far left Socialist anarchist. They are destroying private businesses that people worked their entire lives to build and cultivate. They are destroying public places, they are commandeering swathes of American cities and calling it their own while under arms. They are attacking police officers, there are no go areas where they decide where, when and whom can go. They are diverting traffic. They are destroying homes, they are currently helping to bankrupt NYC. They are obliterating American history and they are singlehandidly calling for what amounts to book burning.

People who defend themselves are the ones being arrested.

So I ask .. what will be the normal reaction. Well .. I still believe that 7/8ths of America are normal people living normal lives and will want to return to that as soon as possible. Once Greg and Marsha are told they cant drive down a public road near a wendy's by some guy wearing a mask and holding a rifle what do you think will happen. Just open your eyes.

They will not only accept limitations on American freedoms .. they will beg for them!!

The guy or gal who spent 40 years building a business only to watch it get burned to the ground and watch as insurance companies debate whether civil unrest is covered .. what do you think they will want?

Please government make me safe.

The flair up we are seeing now will bring in a slew of law and order politicians voted in by these same people. They will Insist upon limits to right to assemble, right to free speech and they will beg for curfews and the further militarization of the local law enforcement. They will happily give up their gun rights if it means that the Sleaze bag manning a makeshift barricade doesnt have one.

Anything to feel safe again ... but in the end .. you replace one terrible situation with another and rights given away seldom come back.

Think I am wrong .. look at what we were willing to accept as normal after 9/11. Yea grumble grumble and yet there we are, grown people with shoes in one hand and the other holding up our pants as we try and gather our things in order to travel by plane. Fisa warrants, cameras, phone mining etc .. all in the name of safety.

Vote and vote often .. but dont vote any party line .. Vote message and resume and don't vote for anyone that suggests

I am the government and I am here to help.

I think its going to swing hard in the other direction and there is a whole ton of world history to back up what I am saying and I dont think it will look good.

There really was a simple solution ... as with the gun debate ... punish the criminals and the crimes. Had they allowed for protest and slammed down on illegal behaviour it could have been stemmed but at this point .. there are a bunch of people afraid and physically or finacially damaged by the hands off approuch and now I fear them as much as I did the anarchist.
 

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I have always voted Right because the messaging makes sense to me but I am far more a libertarian. I think both parties suck and I pick the one that sucks less.
Been that way for me for over 40 years (read my sig lines, ;))
 

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LOL! Nobody gives a DAMN about the green hairs. They're trivia.

It's blacks that did the looting and shooting and burning.

Get real.
Since you are on the internet I will assume you have access to news that is not only emanating from an AM radio in a bunker ... so you can see the accompanying pictures and videos that go with a news story.

Normally I am suspect of anything the "news" posts since they have become opinion sources and not news sources but if you look at pictures and video shot by "the man in the crowd" and look at an overwhelming amount of pictures and videos over an extended period of time the one thing you just cant ignore is that the blacks are way under represented at the statue pulling contests, destruction of police cars, store fronts and all the rest. They are the minority at the Chaz where they are ostensibly protesting for Black lives!!

I said it before and I will stick t my guns until someone can prove me wrong. The blacks would have rioted for maybe 3 days .. taken their ill gotten gains and moved on to watching their newly acquired big screen tv at home. The black people who wanted to see change would have continued protesting and worked toward solutions. The violence and anarchy would have long been over were it not for the parasite WHITE anarchists! Antifa!

I just fear that if we dont see the enemy and cant agree on who they are ... we are screwed. As I think Marc pointed out in another thread .. BLM were the useful idiots of something much larger and its much more dangerous.

 

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Agree. Also, these protesters / rioters / looters are mentally incapable of thinking for themselves, and will follow whoever promises something fun or shiny. These are the drones that could be used for gun confiscation. They would be useful, and if they face resistance, they're expendable.
 

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PS .. dont look for it in this election but my fear is the turmoil isnt stopped soon .. start looking at your local elections next go around .. the Anarchist may have over played their hand and get squashed and uber liberals may get pushed out of office but .. it may cost all of us in the end.
 

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The "Useful Idiots" are the bleeding heart white folks who join in with the blacks.

They don't know that the blacks despise them and will get rid of them when they are no longer useful.

Yes, most of us will be long dead when it happens, but around 2075 all things will be reversed.

I think it's a bad mistake to eliminate the white race.......but that's the final chapter in the story.
 

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The "Useful Idiots" are the bleeding heart white folks who join in with the blacks.

They don't know that the blacks despise them and will get rid of them when they are no longer useful.

Yes, most of us will be long dead when it happens, but around 2075 all things will be reversed.

I think it's a bad mistake to eliminate the white race.......but that's the final chapter in the story.
I am not a big MLK fan but this statement says it all to me

"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin but by the content of their character."

I too think it would be a shame if the white race disappeared but I think that of all people created by god. I am ok with all races and with people of mixed races and ethnicity so long as they are quality people. To date .. I dont know that any one group holds the market on quality humans. I will say that I have been fortunate to meet quality humans ... and they practiced different religions, spoke different languages, and looked different than I do.

If you believe in god even as an aside .. you have to imagine he made room for all of us.
 
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