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Looky what came home from GunBroker! A 1974 Walther PP Super in 9 Ultra. Looks brand new, amazing! Always wanted one of these but ammo has been an issue. So I did some research. Loaded up some 9x18 Mak cases sized in 9 MM Dies with .355 90-95gr .380 bullets, worked like a champ! Feed, cycle, eject like they were made for it, fit the chamber perfectly. They end up looking like 9 Mak rounds cause the magazines are made for truncated bullets not round nose ones......so you have to seat round nose FMJ's little deeper than normal. Using .380 load data. Dimensions are generous enough that Mak cases fit the breech faces on ALL my .380's. CZ, 82/83's Sig 238, Browning BDA, Walther PPK, Colt 1908 and even my Husqvarna 1907. They won't chamber all the way in the .380's cause the case is tapered and bigger in diameter. Didn't anyone ever try using Mak cases sized in 9 MM Dies? No split or bulged cases like you would get using 380's in the 9 MM Ultra. Can't believe the gun looks brand new, 1974! Started reloading .380's and everything else since 1982ish. You almost can't tell the difference between Mak cases sized and loaded with 90, 95 JHP's and cast 100 gr bullets over the real 9 Ultra ammo! The gun can't tell the difference between Fiocchi 100 gr FMJ's and my reloads using 9 Mak cases sized for .355 bullets!
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I've seen a few of those in the past and always thought they were classy looking pistols. I always wondered why Walther didn't market them in 9x18 or 380 for commercial sales.
Sounds like you have the right formula for ammo to get alot of shooting fun out of that pistol. Good for you.
 

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Just a little update. Been sizing 9 Mak cases I had in 9mm dies and using them in the Walther PP Super in 9 Ultra. Well I know you can make 9Mak cases from 9mm cases, people used to do it before 9Mak was imported into the US. So I set up my case trimmer to do just that! Yes you can make 9 Ultra from cheap plentiful 9mm cases!
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That's a good looking collection you got there.
 

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My info is that Interarms ordered a 1000 in 9 Kurz (.380) for import over here. Word is they pull a pretty penny when they rarely turn up.
 

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A number of odd ball caliber handguns were created because of the countries laws against civilians or even police owning military caliber handguns.
 
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