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I have been looking for that, Thanks!
 
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Carl, yes indeed...and a very good point. It is for a right handed shooter only...should have mentioned that.

Good catch ;)

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I have been using this target for the past year or so. It is amazing to see, in black and white, and completely unbiased, what you are doing incorrectly. i can attest to its abilities to curse yourself out. It doesn't lie.
 

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Giz,
I already knew the answer to my question, but did want to point out to anyone else who may not have known..

There is a lefty version. I don't remember for sure if it's just a mirror version of this one. Could be though..

It's really a very good target to use if you're having problems.
 
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Carl,

Think one of the reasons I posted the target was to get folks with fixed sighted guns from taking out the files... :eek: For the life of me, I don't get the mentality that it has to be the guns fault. Perhaps it is the learning curve in handling various types of guns. I have three Ruger .45's in the same barrel length, but all with a different gripframe. Using the exact same loads in all three ~ most fella's will get three very different impact areas on a target. But if they bench rest the guns, they are all going to hit the 10 ring at 15 yards. So is it the guns, or the shooter? Hope the test target gets folks to thinking about the possibilities...It won't work for everyone, and some folks will get different results from the suggestions. But it is a kicking off point on the body mechanics issue that is the root cause of most of the windage and elevation issues...

Perhaps we could then do a tips on bullet weight and speed and it's effect on elevation to help some folks get to Point of Aim...

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I have yet to meet a handgun that was not sensitive to variations in grip and very sensitive to variations in finger placement on the trigger. That's one of the reasons that, as my hands have grown older, I am tending to stay away from anything with over-sized or "hand filling" grips. I need to be able to get my finger just right or I will consistently throw to the left.

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Prolly showin off my age....

But I remember when folks managed to find the time to "Regulate" their handguns. We all didn't have the money for gobs of guns. And the sport of sending a whole lot of lead downrange as fast as you can....was still a ways off. The gunwriters of yesteryear wrote considerable on what to do to tweak out the best point of impact for your fixed sighted gun.

Old School...way of doing things. Seems like most of what your read these days involves filing front sights and light loads. Pretty hard to put metal that's been removed, back on those front sights ;)

I also have to agree with David. How many of the shooters you see at the range have mastered the way they grip a gunframe? Or know how to place the finger on the trigger for the most effect?

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I have both the left hand and right hand that prints out on a 8.5 X 11 sheet of paper. I use 65 lb. stock to print them on.

If anyone wants them email me and I will send them to you.
 

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carl418 said:
Giz,
Is this the one for a right handed person?
Carl,

The one for the left handed shooter would just have the red center. We don't need those out lying areas! :lol:
 

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I always appreciate postings like giz' target here.
The point raised by several members about proper grip is also of vital importance.
In a CCW clinic I attended last weekend, an analysis of several of us (older) revolver-shooters produced the same result: Lots of shot-placement at 8 O'Clock, radiating from the bullseye out to the outer ring. j;zn;
Must mention that we were all using bottom-feeders for the class. :shock:
With the generally-heavier trigger on our N-Frame Smiths, we extend our trigger finger too far into the trigger-guard, and 'crunch' the trigger on the semi-autos.
The weapon reacts as it should, moving very slightly towards 8 O'Clock.
Once that problem was solved, we worked on a REALLY steady two-handed grip, using isometrics...Push out with the right hand, pull back with the left.
I thought it was hokey as hell, until...
Produced the best targets I've shot in months! hpzl;n;
When you think you know it all, know that you're wrong!
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Don
 
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