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Its my trade!!!!! Old model Vaquero in .45LC.

Help me learn more about Ruger models. When did the Vaquero come out and what is the difference in an old model Vaquero and a current one?

Don't know when they came out, but its been a few years. The difference between the models are that the new ones are on the old small frame, more closely sized to the Colt. Where as the older model's are on the super blackhawk frame.

bmcgilvray said:

Help me learn more about Ruger models. When did the Vaquero come out and what is the difference in an old model Vaquero and a current one?

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I believe the Vaqueros first came about in 1993. I used a pair when I joined SASS in 1999.

You're not supposed to shoot "Ruger Only" loads in the newer Vaq's as the frame is smaller like Leighton said as well as the chamber walls being thinner. The new models are tailored pretty much for mousefart CAS loads.

Leighton,

I was just funnin' ya...I knew you were after a OM Vaquerro but wasn't sure if it was in a 45 Colt. Nice set of grips, by the way....Now you get to regulate a favorite load or two to the gun. I'd go for something in the medium weights of 250 gr. SWC and start her out at 7.4 grains of Unique....she won't bark, but she'll shoot at 25 yards with some authority

giz

The guy I traded with also provided 200rds of ammo with her. Nothing but cowboy loads, but at least I got lots of brass now to get started with. IF our weather here holds out, I may get to the range this weekend. Its just one of those wait an see's.

That's a great start for your single action collection, Leighton!

xtm

Leighton said:

Don't know when they came out, but its been a few years. The difference between the models are that the new ones are on the old small frame, more closely sized to the Colt. Where as the older model's are on the super blackhawk frame.

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I remember going into a gunshop in 1994 and a number of guys were looking at a Vaquerro and a 3 rd gen Colt SSA and taking measurements with a set of dial calipers. The Ruger was a visablely bigger than the Colt and there were a lot of comments about thicker not being better. As the S&W ad said Thicker is for Hamburgers and Shakes not guns. :lol:

jimg11 said:

Leighton said:

Don't know when they came out, but its been a few years. The difference between the models are that the new ones are on the old small frame, more closely sized to the Colt. Where as the older model's are on the super blackhawk frame.

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I remember going into a gunshop in 1994 and a number of guys were looking at a Vaquerro and a 3 rd gen Colt SSA and taking measurements with a set of dial calipers. The Ruger was a visablely bigger than the Colt and there were a lot of comments about thicker not being better. As the S&W ad said Thicker is for Hamburgers and Shakes not guns. :lol:

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That may be true is some respects, but I would never want to shoot a "Ruger Only" load out of any S&W!!

+1.I can shoot loads out of my ruger 45 colt bisley that would turn a smith into rattling junk :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: .
pete

Jim,
I remember seeing those "Thicker is better for burgers and shakes..." ads when they first came out.
Very clever!
When it comes to hot loads, it's no accident that TC, Freedom Arms and Ruger (Old Vaqueros) can take anything that's dished out.
I really admire the beautiful lines of the Colt M-1873 replicas, both 2nd and 3rd generation, but IMHO they aren'r particularly strong guns.
I know there are still Colt purists who bemoan the loss of the flat mainspring, but there's a good reason Ruger ate Colt's lunch over 50 years ago.
Don

Great gun, the O.M Vaquero. I've never wanted a newer model. And I kinda figure that the gun is a Ruger, and was never meant to be a Colt in the first place. I want guns that can handle all that they are asked for and more. I loathe guns that break due to poor design of parts. A gun is only as strong as it's weakest parts and the design of the Colt springs will always be one of it's downfalls. Bill Ruger designed that out, and it's always been one of the best things about the Ruger SA's. I've had issues twice with Colt springs, and I rarely shoot my Colts. But the Rugers that I shoot mercilessly, have never had a singe problem...

Good first gun, and when you figure out the various loadings that work best for it, you'll have a lifetime keeper that can outlast many generations of shooters....

giz

SP, I would love to own an original Colt, I however have to stay within my means.

Leighton said:

SP, I would love to own an original Colt, I however have to stay within my means.

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Says the man who already has ~200-300 guns! nfiofnp

xtm

xtimberman said:

Leighton said:

SP, I would love to own an original Colt, I however have to stay within my means.

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Says the man who already has ~200-300 guns! nfiofnp

xtm

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Not that many, and all were gotten for a good price, or trade. To date I've only purchased three guns new in the box. My 640ND, my 3913, and my first ever handgun a BDA380 when I turned 21 in Germany.

Just joking!!...but you do have a substantial collection!

xtm

xtimberman said:

Just joking!!...but you do have a substantial collection!

xtm

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Thanks! Got a few, but there are some on here who make me look like a beginner!