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    460 Rowland conversion for 1911

    Does anyone here have any experience with the 460 conversion?
    Last edited by mkoepp; 04-28-2019 at 07:07 PM.

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    Didn't know any 1911 frame would withstand the recoil of a 460 with a substantial pill and if it would, I'd be afraid to shoot it because of the recoil. My 460 XVR is bad enough with a brake and the heavy X frame.
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    Thanks Sidecarflip. I know I would be despondent if I busted one of my 1911's, there is no definitive information on these handgun conversions that's why I'm here picking ya'lls brain.

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    The 460 S&W Magnum cartridge attains rifle like velocity and employs a heavy bullet (minimum 230 grain) so it's a hard kicker. It uses rifle powder (in my case Retumbo) in reloads and takes a large magnum rifle primers as well. Heavy recoil and lots of pressure too. Would be a dandy 'gator round' but I think in my opinion at least, f I was to do the 460 thing, I'd buy a Smith X frame wheelgun like I ave because the frame can handle the stress. I don't see a 45 caliber lower dealing with that very well. I cannot stt you shooting one either. Mine is a 2 hand deal, I thing a 45 auto lower would destroy your hand or at least the trigger guard would lacerate you on recoil.

    Take a 460 case and reload it with a 300 grain Swift A frame for instance and you have a round that will stop anything, anywhere including African dangerous game.

    As I've found out, they aren't a weak wrist just go plinking caliber. It's serious firepower. No one on here (that I know about) has one. There are a couple on the other Smith forum and one guy on the Long Range Hunting forum, hosted by Len Bakus, has one too. My 460 XVR groups well at 100 yards and shoots well to 150 yards with adequate kill power. Not your usual handgun, it's not about 50 feet at all. It's about 50 yards plus. I guarantee that at less than 50 yards, any of those reptiles will have an entry wound and exit wound even a head shot. The 460 don't know what bone is. Goes tight through it.
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    The 460 Rowland is a soup'd up 45 acp (the case is about a 1/16" longer)
    All hot loads shorten frame life somewhat.
    I shot one for a spell....But, I think I like the 45 Super some what better.
    (Didn't like the comp added length)


    https://www.460rowland.com/


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    I hear ya Keith. I have 2 revolvers that will shoot the super without any extra work done to them a Blackhawk 45 colt/45 acp convertible and my smith 625 which I've taken hogs with and really knocks the crap out of them 255gr Hardcast Underwood and Buffalo Bore ammo. The reason the 460 has peaked my interest is its Ballistics close to 44 mag In a 1911

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    My 460 will send anything in 45 cal, but I only send 460's.

    Here you go. It's a serious handgun but then I like serious handguns a rule...

    When the going gets tough and the distance opens up I use this one too...
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    A friend has one built on an old AMT Hardballer Longslide. It's a pretty big pistol by the time you add that ported weight to the end. He uses it as a field pistol. I don't find the recoil or muzzle flip to be all that bad with all the weight forward on his pistol. I think I would build a Longslide if I built one.

    PS Why do we have a bunch of posts about the .460 S&W Mag in a topic about the .460 Rowland? Might as well post the .460 Wby Mag too.
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    I looked into the 460 Rowland years ago and decided against it for the reasons already discussed...have a Desert Eagle with true 44mag performance.
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    I also researched the 460 Rowland to carry when hog hunting . It took a lot of looking but found the operational pressure was 35K and I know the 10MM was running Colt Deltas at that time . I personally think that 35K PSI is too much for a 1911 frame to be shot more than a few rounds hunting and then it is still too much pressure for me.


 
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