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    Model 1955 .45 Colt

    I've run across a model 1955 in .45 Colt. It is on a 1917 marked US Army frame. Looks like a frankengun to me but the owner is convinced that it is factory. Is it possible?
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    I have what I will say is a cousin to the gun you found, chambered in .45 ACP. It has a 1955 barrel on a 1917 frame that has been blued to match the barrel. Good shooter.Name:  1917-55-3.JPG
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    Pretty gun. Similar for sure. But a 1917 has fixed sights. How do we account for adjustable sights? That confuses me more than the US marked frame.

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    Machining the frame for a rear sight is about as easy as fitting a new barrel, for a gunsmith. Reblue everything so it matches and you have a new revolver!

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    I have one. The conversion was done by Andy Horvath using a .44 Magnum cylinder. One of my favorite guns.
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    You would come closer to making the argument with a Model of 1950 barrel, Springfield inspector's mark inside the frame and a commercial serial on the butt. But, no it is a frankengun. For many years after the WWI contracts were cancelled large frame S&W's turned up wearing the aforementioned mark. A few even had butt swivels and were sold as "Military". The 1917 military markings on the butt, no.


    Remember, from the close of WWI to the early 1960's there were very many .455's, 1917's both Colt and S&W, and .38 caliber revolvers hitting the market. You see every level from master work to crap done to these guns. I owned for a long time a .38 Heavy Duty clone built on a .455 frame. I still have a .22 made to a Pre-V frame/cylinder. There is the remotest possibility it was sent to S&W to have the work done. Look at the butt, on the frame inside the grips and under the barrel. Are there stamps like an open star, diamond or circle? Is there on the grip frame a month.year or day.month.year stamp applied. My factory refurbished Triple Lock for example is marked 3.55, looking is cheap. It may add some value if S&W's shop did the work but it won't make it a production gun, IMHO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bargemaster View Post
    I've run across a model 1955 in .45 Colt. It is on a 1917 marked US Army frame. Looks like a frankengun to me but the owner is convinced that it is factory. Is it possible?
    Welcome to the forum.

    In a word no, not possible!

    There are a few 1917s manufactured in 45 Colt Com'l models and those are very rare. The frames used are surplus 1917 frames and will have military inspector stamps, usually an eagle head over a two digit #. These frames were also used for 44 Spl hand ejectors. But none of these will have military markings ("UNITED STATES PROPERTY" under the barrel and US ARMY MOD 1917 on the butt, with the serial # in two lines).

    And these guns absolutely will not be 1955 .45 Colts or anything but a Commercial Model 45 ACP 1917s with fixed sights.

    If the frame HAS military markings as listed above, the frame was produced before the end of WWI by 1918.

    And if the serial # under the barrel, back of cyl, and on the grip frame butt do not all match, the barrel and maybe cyl have been changed which is what we most likely will see. Do the numbers match?

    And the replacement barrel could very well be a marked "Model of 1955 45" barrel. If it's any post war barrel which will have a barrel rib. The rib will stick up above the front of the frame as shown on Mac23's gun shown above.


    A photo of the gun would really be of help and also information requested above about the serial numbers matching.
    Last edited by Hondo44; 09-10-2019 at 03:24 PM. Reason: Inappropriate information.
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    Attachment 404243Name:  IMG_0105 (002).JPG
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Size:  405.3 KBThe number on the cylinder and butt match (1917). But, it is a 45 Colt, not ACP.
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