How to authenticate a U.S. Navy marked revolver
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    Seeing that a letter of authenticity is $100 and it seems quite apparent that this is most likely not a genuine Navy gun, I can definitely say that I learned my lesson on this one and I will probably sell it soon to free up my cash or trade it for another gun that I'd rather have. I guess I should always fall back on the old saying, " if it seems too good to be true, then it likely is".
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    I am finally back home with a solid Wifi connection so here are some pictures of the gun.
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    Hm, yes, these don’t look real. Both the ordnance bomb and the W.B. on the butt seem too large and too nicely lined up. For comparison, attached the butt of a gun in the 945-range, not far before this one (ignore the Canadian property mark).

    And the frame Navy inscription looks very different from the authenticated pantographed style as shown in Waidmann’s post.
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    I concur with Absalom. Also, his Canadian is more to type. Your Bomb simply looks wrong. I have seen some early British guns with the W.B. in a Box, maybe not quite so large. Someone between refinish and the art work put a lot of effort into this piece.

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    It's a shame that someone got greedy and messed up a nice revolver to get more money out of it, but I guess that's reality. Well, another lesson learned and yet another reason why not to buy something unless you are knowledgeable about these things. I only knew that there were a smaller amount of the 1942 navy marked guns with the red paint. I should have backed away from the table and thought it over, but no sense in staying disappointed in it. It will either be a fun range gun or it will in on trade for another gun.
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    It likely a fully functional M&P with new coat of paint and some interesting tattoos. Its doubtful you will ever run across a questioner. All mine have shot decently.

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    Very true. I have 3 victory models in .38 special ( one being a DSC gun, and the other two are regular old U.S. Property G.H.D marked ones) and the previctory revolver I discussed earlier. I was amazed with how nice the mechanical condition of the fake navy revolver in that it was either overhauled when it got the stamps or this was a truely pristine condition gun when it got stamped. I was expecting it to have endshake in the cylinder or some sign that it had been used a bit, but all of the surfaces look good on the ejector star where the hand comes into contact. I will have to take the side plate off to if the insides look as nice. If the gun had a higher value, I'd send it off to turnbull restorations to have the fake markings taken off or filled in and refinished, but I bet that would get too pricey to be worth it on these guns.
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    If the gun had a higher value, I'd send it off to turnbull restorations to have the fake markings taken off or filled in and refinished, but I bet that would get too pricey to be worth it on these guns.
    These guns will never be valuable enough to have a Turnbull-like restoration make sense. He won't work on S&W guns anymore anyway.
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    I figured that these wouldn't be worth it to be corrected by turnbull or some other place that does great work, but I figured that it wouldn't hurt to ask them (no reply yet). I was unaware that he doesn't work on S&W guns when there are quite a few out there that are very valuable. What a shame. It is also a shame that a letter of authenticity is $100 and can take a couple months to get back. If it was $50 with a couple week turn around, sure I'd gamble a little more to see if my suspicions are correct, but at it's current price, it just seems like a waste of money to tell me something that I probably already know ( it's not a genuine navy gun). I understand that they have cornered the market as being the only place that really has all of this potential information for an exact gun, but I thought that is was only $30-$50 five or six years ago, or maybe I am mistaken on that.
    Taylor

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    Fake or Real that's the most "minty" looking Victory I've ever seen.
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