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    Hello Folks

    New old guy here from the deep dark woods of rural North Florida, you know, the part without the palm trees and Yankee tourists. I am a bit of a firearm affectionate and have a modest collection that includes a handful of old rusty Smith wheel guns. In fact, I am coming to the source of all knowledge about one I just got my grubby hands on.

    It is a Victory model with a snub barrel. Now I know that a lot of the old Victories were abused after the war so that they could sell the things, but the placement of the markings on this one make me wonder if it left merry old England as a shortie.

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    Now I know that a lot of the old Victories were abused after the war so that they could sell the things, but the placement of the markings on this one make me wonder if it left merry old England as a shortie.
    Not without a front retaining lug, it didn't.


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    Nice looking but it has been cut down. No barrel lug. Looks like it still shoots the .38SW. Birmingham markings for the conversion; not sure if they cut the barrel.

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    Greetings from the West coast mate..

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    Thanks everybody.

    Are the British markings, and serial number on the barrel in the typical location for a Victory? I have a Colt Police Positive that also served His Majesty and the markings are nicely strung out along the right side of the barrel and that was what I would have expected on a gun cut down in the US. I knew is was not collectable because the cylinder was swapped to a non-matching .38 special. I paid a shooter price for the old thing. Surprisingly the .38 special printed ok at short range, but I suspect that at 50 feet, a ten inch target would be safe.

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    Welcome to the forum!
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    to the forums from the Wiregrass! With all respect to Fran's opinion, I think your barrel was cut in Britain before it was proofed and exported. That's why all the proof stamps are under the barrel. Normally they'd be on the upper left side of the barrel. If it was cut in the US, there would be no proofs under the barrel.
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    Yes, as Guy says, the barrel was definitely shortened before it was commercially proofed at the Birmingham proof house. Having the proofs as well as the view mark clustered on the barrel flat is typical of those, which aren’t very common. Most cut 2” Victorys were created after re-import in the US.

    Exceptions are professional conversion jobs by firms like Cogswell & Harrison which cut in front of the lug and left enough space to place the proofs on the side in the standard locations, left side of the barrel for Birmingham, right side for London.
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