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    There's two significant, glaring flaws in our system of government. Terms limits and recall mechanisms. Term limits is something that really needs to happen, and I do mean by any means necessary. At the federal level, there is no recall mechanism for either the house or senate. As far as the senate goes, this explains the 17th amendment nicely. Prior to the 17th, states appointed senators, and could recall them. After the 17th, they were elected by their respective states. That put them in parallel with their house counterparts. Meaning, that once you pulled the lever for them, no matter how corrupt, incompetent, or stupid they were, they were untouchable, as far as getting rid of them, outside of the next scheduled election. Pretty good work if you can get it. At the state level, only 19 states have a recall mechanism. Virginia isn't one of them. You don't think it's an accident they're trying to pull stuff off there, do you?

    They aren't crazy, or stupid, or uninformed. They simply indulge themselves, because the Constitution doesn't lay out a mechanism that allows YOU to do anything about it between elections, and they know they can piss on you from the top of the Ivory Tower, with little fear of repercussions. Take away 2A, and they'd be throwing darts at a map to see what group of peasants they were going to oppress that day...Nice, huh? Capitol Hill hasn't 'served' anything in 100 years, except themselves. This will never end, until we solve those two issues. You are ONLY permitted in most cases to exercise political influence during national elections, and locally. You can recall your local small town mayor if you like, but you'll never be allowed real ability to affect what goes on in the federal system. Even the 19 states that allow state officials to be recalled aren't too worried, because the bar is set high as far as getting a recall ballot initiated.

    Between elections, they simply do what they damn well please, and heartily laugh at anyone who speaks up. They remind me of the medieval European baron, who rides down the kid of a local pig herder while on horseback, shouting, 'Make way for a better man!'.

    And people wonder why violent urges are growing in this country...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Magishan View Post
    There's two significant, glaring flaws in our system of government. Terms limits and recall mechanisms. Term limits is something that really needs to happen, and I do mean by any means necessary. At the federal level, there is no recall mechanism for either the house or senate. As far as the senate goes, this explains the 17th amendment nicely. Prior to the 17th, states appointed senators, and could recall them. After the 17th, they were elected by their respective states. That put them in parallel with their house counterparts. Meaning, that once you pulled the lever for them, no matter how corrupt, incompetent, or stupid they were, they were untouchable, as far as getting rid of them, outside of the next scheduled election. Pretty good work if you can get it. At the state level, only 19 states have a recall mechanism. Virginia isn't one of them. You don't think it's an accident they're trying to pull stuff off there, do you?

    They aren't crazy, or stupid, or uninformed. They simply indulge themselves, because the Constitution doesn't lay out a mechanism that allows YOU to do anything about it between elections, and they know they can piss on you from the top of the Ivory Tower, with little fear of repercussions. Take away 2A, and they'd be throwing darts at a map to see what group of peasants they were going to oppress that day...Nice, huh? Capitol Hill hasn't 'served' anything in 100 years, except themselves. This will never end, until we solve those two issues. You are ONLY permitted in most cases to exercise political influence during national elections, and locally. You can recall your local small town mayor if you like, but you'll never be allowed real ability to affect what goes on in the federal system. Even the 19 states that allow state officials to be recalled aren't too worried, because the bar is set high as far as getting a recall ballot initiated.

    Between elections, they simply do what they damn well please, and heartily laugh at anyone who speaks up. They remind me of the medieval European baron, who rides down the kid of a local pig herder while on horseback, shouting, 'Make way for a better man!'.

    And people wonder why violent urges are growing in this country...
    Recalls only work if you have a majority. Term limits throw out the baby with the bathwater. Repealing the 17th Amendment is a good first step though. Point being, we have to balance between stability and accountability. Getting rid of direct election of Senators would make the Senate accountable to the States- as it should be.
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    Quote Originally Posted by delcrossv View Post
    Recalls only work if you have a majority. Term limits throw out the baby with the bathwater. Repealing the 17th Amendment is a good first step though. Point being, we have to balance between stability and accountability. Getting rid of direct election of Senators would make the Senate accountable to the States- as it should be.
    I wouldn't be against possibly a longer term for incumbents as a consolation prize....but this crap of people being on the hill for 40 years....that has to stop. Having the ABILITY to recall federal officials would at least serve as a check on them, by way of having the threat of a recall looming over their head. As it stands now, they haven't a care in the world.
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