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    Olivia Newton John has srage 4 breast cancer



    She's asked her doctor not to tell her how long she has. She believes being told you have X days results in you convincing yourself that's all the time you have left.
    She says its a self fulfilling prophecy. Apparently she's treating it will "natural remedies" whatever that means. Its nature that gave her cancer. But hey....
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    Dumb to the end?

    Hint: Doctors prescribe treatments because they usually work.
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    I have to say that I too considered 'natural treatments' like cannabis (CBD) products and actually talked to a couple people who went that route and were 'supposedly' cured. Because I was in an acute stage and one of my doctors happened to be the head of the Kresgee Cancer Foundation (Kresgee himself), I felt more comfortable with conventional medicine. Besides, I watched a pretty good friend die while doing the holistic deal and it was gruesome.

    I was told at the outset that if I did not immediately start treating it, I would be history in maybe a month, 2 at most and I wasn't in a position to 'dick' around with maybe treatments so I went the conventional medicine route and I'm glad I did because today I'm 100% cancer free. Was it pleasant, hell no. I look like a sardine can that someone opened with a dull screw driver but at my age and stage in the game, I don't really care, besides a tee shirt covers it up

    I'm still here and posting my usual worthless comments... If I had gone the other route maybe I'd be here but then again maybe not. I prefer medically tried and proven methods and Stage 4 breast cancer... You don't have a lot of time to contemplate the 'what if's'

    One thing about cancer is, you don't have to be old, you can be a kid and get it. I've seen plenty of young kids with bald heads. I mean kids under 10 years old...and once it's gone don't mean it won't come back either. All about genetics.

    If she's going with the holistic approach at Stage 4, you'll be reading her obit in a pretty short time and , it's a helluva way to die. No amount of morphine will kill the pain as the cancer cells consume you from the inside.

    I think for me at least, if it came back and wasn't treatable (I left my I/O port in my shoulder just in case, sort of an insurance policy), I believe I'd take a gargle with my 45 Kimber. I'm not about to go through terminal cancer and the pain and suffering it causes not only to yourself, but to your loved ones as well.
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    Advances in the medical treatment of cancer is happening in leaps and bounds but if you want to go the coffee enema and apricot pit route more power to you. My Non-Hodgkin Lymphoma (stage 3) was a very specific type, it had a protein marker on the cell surface. I was treated with an infusion that targeted (attached to) that specific protein and then disrupted the DNA inside the cancer cell which kept it from replicating. Six months of conventional chemo along with concurrent targeted therapy and it went into remission. But hey, if you want to hug crystals and have foreign objects shoved up your ass, more power to you. You have one life and need to live it as you see fit.

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    I've had so many doctors and tools up my ass, it feels like a parking garage. Sure have worn a lot of hospital gowns that don't tie in the back too. One thing about having cancer and being hospitalized is, you leave your dignity at the door. Some people have an issue with that. I don't.

    I know the last procedure I had, I was but naked even before the nurse told me to take my clothes off.. Got one coming up on the 26th too. I'd do the auto strip for that one as well...

    My urologist commented that I wasn't bashful and I replied that my butt was like a train station...
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidecarFlip View Post
    I've had so many doctors and tools up my ass, it feels like a parking garage. Sure have worn a lot of hospital gowns that don't tie in the back too. One thing about having cancer and being hospitalized is, you leave your dignity at the door. Some people have an issue with that. I don't.

    I know the last procedure I had, I was but naked even before the nurse told me to take my clothes off.. Got one coming up on the 26th too. I'd do the auto strip for that one as well...

    My urologist commented that I wasn't bashful and I replied that my butt was like a train station...
    Isn't that the truth, I was never bashful before but now I start getting stripped down in the waiting room.

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    Olivia don't have any idea what is coming. No one really does and no one can adequately tell you what will happen or not happen because everyone is different and every person reacts differently. The one thing I do know and that is when you are at stage 4, you made 2 stupid mistakes, one you should have but didn't get checked, breast cancer is detectable early and two, you chose the wrong treatment. I'd not want to be in her shoes for any amount of money. BTW men get breast cancer as well as women. I'm almost certain we can say goodbye soon.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidecarFlip View Post
    Olivia don't have any idea what is coming. No one really does and no one can adequately tell you what will happen or not happen because everyone is different and every person reacts differently. The one thing I do know and that is when you are at stage 4, you made 2 stupid mistakes, one you should have but didn't get checked, breast cancer is detectable early and two, you chose the wrong treatment. I'd not want to be in her shoes for any amount of money. BTW men get breast cancer as well as women. I'm almost certain we can say goodbye soon.
    In the case of Stage 4 breast cancer it is really a crap shoot, it is often treated as a chronic disease now because the life expectancy keeps getting longer every day. A lot of cancers are becoming that way. Prostate, certain leukemia, NHL, some colon cancers are just a few that can be managed as a chronic illness. A lot of progress has been made over the last decade or so. I would like to see all cancers cured in my lifetime but I don't think it will happen although chemo may become a thing of the past or very rare, targeted therapies and immunotherapy is making tremendous strides in survivability of cancers.

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    Olivia, has been there before. I think she is flying the flag. Shame great in the Icon movie Grease. I pray she knows the Lord...

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