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    Quote Originally Posted by mrerick View Post
    Now that you understand the objective of basically all 22,000 Second Amendment infringing laws in this country, join with your state's firearms rights group to start dismantling them one at a time.

    The effort that would help the nation most right now would recognize that politicians are supporting school shooters nationwide by protecting them when they attack schools. Isn't that exactly what happens when you stop the law abiding and trained staff and citizens from defending themselves? This was a decision by politicians at local, state and Federal level starting with the supposed "Gun Free School Zones Act" which has established well marked and identified massacre zones where school attackers know they are protected from anyone lawful that would stop them.

    Tell politicians it really doesn't matter what they intended with these ill conceived prohibition laws. The effect is well understood, and the impact has to be reversed now.

    https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnew...-are-dangerous

    Armed teachers that can defend our most precious children are not dangerous. We know that for a fact in the 22 states that already permit armed school staff.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/john...chool-shooters

    Not a single school attack has been directed at a school full of children during normal school operating hours in states that permit armed staff.

    https://crimeresearch.org/2019/05/ma...-school-hours/

    The study to share with your politicians (the ones that are protecting the school shooters and enabling a rapid increase in the incidence of these attacks) is here:

    http://ssrn.com/abstract=3377801

    The raw data is available for any researcher to use to check the validity of John Lott's work here:

    https://crimeresearch.org/wp-content...90418.xlsx.zip

    Now get busy and tell politicians to correct their ill conceived and dangerous actions which are protecting school shooters and putting our precious children in danger.

    The legacy media is finally figuring out that they are part of the problem when they glorify the name of school attackers. Even with that, they cannot control themselves to the point of stopping. NPR insisted on naming them this morning. Of course, they still haven't connected with the fact that dwelling on all the chaos and weeping victims motivates future school attackers.

    The politically correct school administrations have yet to realize that telling staff and children to hide and cower will not stop the attacks. In the last ones, brave students ignored bad advice, and actively resisted to stop the attacks, tragically dying in the process of saving dozens of lives and injuries to others.

    So now it's time to take on the politicians and tell them to drop the delusions and let responsible defenders save lives. Using guns if necessary, but stopping evil in the process.

    After all, "The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result."
    Excellent post!
    "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." -A.E. van Vogt

    It's the United States, not the United Provinces: Invoke Article V. Repeal the 17th.

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    A friend called me asking what I thought about the red flag laws. She is a medically retired police officer.
    When I gave her my views she then asked if I had an M16 or M2 50 BMG. I told her not above ground. We both laughed.
    But she agrees, a lot of firearms will no longer be above ground and not easily accessed if gun confiscation begins.
    If that happens, and it will, they have achieved gun control because they will not be easily accessed.
    Believe me, they know firearms will be hidden deep but they don’t care. They just want them out of the hands of everyday citizens.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Okiewind View Post
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    Believe me, they know firearms will be hidden deep but they don’t care. They just want them out of the hands of everyday citizens.
    Oh, they care all right. They really want the populace disarmed, then of course we'll have to kow-tow to our blue state betters. Rather foolish IMO, but power is everything to those people.



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    "The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." -A.E. van Vogt

    It's the United States, not the United Provinces: Invoke Article V. Repeal the 17th.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Okiewind View Post
    The federal government passes law after law and then selectively enforces them. They handicap small businesses with laws, then the large companies break those laws with impunity because the feds don’t want to take on big companies for the most part. An example is job discrimination laws concerning age. Other examples include environmental regulations.
    The point is will they enforce those gun control laws. Connecticut outlawed “ assault weapons” after Sandy Hook and only a few thousand were turned in. Hundreds of thousands are still in the hands of Connecticut citizens. They aren’t going after the guns but will ream anyone caught with one.
    But in times of emergency as the Boston Bombing they searched homes under threat of force without warrants.
    Will it happen if the feds outlaws firearms?
    If they - law enforcement - are met with the same force they threaten with - battle rifles with extended magazines - they will take casualties confiscating firearms.
    Will that stop gun confiscation? Will that stop honest citizens being made felons by the stroke of a pen?
    We don’t want to find out.
    The majority of the people do not want the problems gun confiscation will cause but the elitists don’t care.
    All I can tell you is my new OKLAHOMA Representative Kendra Horn is a huge flake when it comes to gun control. She will not commit to a position when confronted by pro 2A citizens but you can surely count on her voting for gun control..
    She is gonna get gone in the next election.
    Your elected representative is where the battle exists now, we don’t want gun fights at our homes resisting gun confiscation.
    I attended an ADA (Americans with Disabilities Act) symposium this morning, and was reminded of how the more laws we create, the more lawbreakers we have. The question came up of why, 28 years after the ADA legislation was passed, do we still build bathrooms wrong? It's because before the ADA there was no such thing as "wrong." People are not perfect, we don't follow every law to the letter; never have, never will. It's not because we don't want to, it's because it's not possible. When you write a big thick book full of regulations, you get a big thick book full of plaintiffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MWAG View Post
    ...When you write a big thick book full of regulations, you get a big thick book full of plaintiffs.
    Every day all over the country there are laws selectively enforced for some and ignored for others. Our judicial system and LE (pardon me not meaning to offend the front line workers) are a joke when it comes to equity of justice.
    The average guy is screwed if charges are filed on him (I.e. not keeping his yard up to municipal standards) while large corporations can pollute the landscape because some gov’t agency doesn’t have the funds for on-site inspections. The brass from that agency have probably attended 3 to 4 symposiums in the same budget cycle costing hundreds of thousands.
    I read a book some years ago in my grad studies saying the govt can hang multiple felonies on ANYBODY for obscure violations of unknown regulations.
    IT IS TRUE.
    We now have our representatives in Washington passing laws to “help Joe Sixpack” that ends up screwing the average citizen and making huge money for large corporations. Look at Obamacare and big pharma. Our insurances costs have jumped tremendously as well as some prescriptions jumping 10,000% in price.
    Laws and regulations are often the bane to the existence of the average citizen.
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    Prohibition never works in a free society. It depends upon tyrannical government abuse of citizens to be effective, and only creates much worse social problems.

    In this country, we never seem to learn that lesson. We've tried it with alcohol (complete failure that launched organized crime as big business in the USA).

    We've tried it with drugs (opening up massive flows of money into the hands of new broader narco-terrorist organizations, while leaving addicts untreated and dangerous).

    We've tried it with sex (creating underground slavery / prostitution operations and nationwide pornographic industries).

    We've tried it with any number of supposedly socially undesirable things.

    When we see politicians try this with guns, we've already seen the massive failures of supposed "gun free" massacre zones like schools (where only the criminal shooter is being protected by the politicians, leaving our precious children to be protected by disarmed heroes that sacrifice themselves).

    Every single attempt at prohibition has failed. Why is anyone listening to these fools. Doing the same failing thing over and over again and hoping it will work is the definition of insanity.
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