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    Inland M-1 Carbine

    My buddy at work gave me an Inland M-1 carbine in the 5,050,000 serial number range. The barrel is marked Inland and dated 3-44. It has the old flip-up sight with two leaves and no bayonette lug. It is not an import and is in very good to excellent condition. The bore is bright and it functions like new.

    That's all I know about this M-1 carbine and carbines in general. What inspector's marks should I look for, for a correct Inland? Which parts would they be on? I've noted several marks that could be either an "M" or a "W", depending on how you look at them.

    The stock has an arsenal cartouche on the right side, has not been sanded or refinished and a faint three letter mark inside the sling cut on the left side. It looks like "IWP". I don't know. The mark is faint and my eyes are weak, even with a magnifying glass.

    Does anyone here know about carbines and what the correct marks should be?

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    Re: Inland M-1 Carbine

    QC,
    I hope this helps.
    I did a quick websearch and found out a little and a forum that will probably be able to answer all of your questions. you should also ask which GM plant made it and what city if possible.
    Some really cool history on how GM & Ford supported the war needs back then.

    Here is the forum link: http://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/ ... topic=2327

    Funny - The Saginaw Division where they made these is where I used to work when I lived back in Michigan.... What a hell hole!
    Here are the mfg dates and basic info:
    Production numbers

    From To
    1 - 5 Inland Division, General Motors
    6 - 10 Winchester Repeating Arms
    11 - 999 999 Inland Division, General Motors
    1 000 000 - 1 349 999 Winchester Repeating Arms
    1 350 000 - 1 449 999 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
    1 450 000 - 1 549 999 National Postal Meter
    1 550 000 - 1 662 519 Quality Hardware Mfg. Corp
    1 662 520 - 1 762 519 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corp
    1 762 520 - 1 875 039 Irwin Pedersen-Saginaw Gear
    1 875 040 - 1 937 519 Quality Hardware Mfg. Corp
    1 937 520 - 1 982 519 National Postal Meter
    1 982 520 - 2 352 519 Standard Products
    2 352 520 - 2 912 519 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
    2 912 520 - 3 212 519 Inland Division, General Motors
    3 212 520 - 3 250 019 Irwin Pedersen-Saginaw Gear
    3 250 520 - 3 651 519 Saginaw (Saginaw) Division
    3 651 520 - 4 009 999 International Business Machines
    4 010 000 - 4 074 999 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
    4 075 000 - 4 075 009 Winchester Repeating Arms
    4 075 010 - 4 432 099 National Postal Meter
    4 432 100 - 4 532 099 Quality Hardware Mfg. Corp
    4 532 100 - 4 632 099 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corp
    4 632 100 - 4 879 525 Quality Hardware Mfg. Corp
    4 879 526 - 5 549 921 Inland Division, General Motors
    5 549 922 - 5 834 618 Winchester Repeating Arms
    5 834 619 - 6 071 188 Saginaw (Saginaw) Division
    6 071 189 - 6 099 688 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corp
    6 099 689 - 6 199 688 Underwood, Elliott, Fisher
    6 199 689 - 6 219 688 Rock-Ola Mfg. Corp
    6 219 689 - 6 449 867 Inland Division, General Motors
    6 449 868 - 6 629 883 Winchester Repeating Arms
    6 629 884 - 7 234 883 Inland Division, General Motors
    7 234 884 - 7 369 660 Winchester Repeating Arms
    7 369 661 - 8 069 660 Inland Division, General Motors
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    Re: Inland M-1 Carbine

    Wow! That is a lot of information. Thank you, kind sir.
    The last Boy Scout.

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    Re: Inland M-1 Carbine

    The problem with Carbines is the same as with Garands, they've all been rebuilt three, maybe four times both here and abroad. Mine, a 498xxx Inland only has one, a SA crossed cannon stamp on the Buttstock and a fat-bellied M2 stock. Here's a pic of it with it's Big-Brothers.
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    Re: Inland M-1 Carbine

    QC,
    Sounds like you have an orginal correct carbine that wasn't re-worked after the war. The carbines were mostly all rebuilt and the bayonet lug was added to them. The Inland receiver with an Inland barrel is another reason to think so. Most carbines were rebarreled as well. The flip sights are were also replaced during this rebuild process. If the safety is a push button type and not the flip lever type , you will most likely have a very nice collectable (read expensive) carbine. In addition they are a blast to shoot. You can learn alot about carbines at the CMP Forum. http://www.odcmp.org/new_forum/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=32
    Lots of carbines were stuffed into duffle bags and taken home at the end of the war by the returning troops and were never rebuilt.
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    Re: Inland M-1 Carbine

    M58 pretty much covered it. Mine, although going through SA where they added the adj.rear sight, flip safety and Bayonet lug, is pretty much original, even has the flat bolt and correct barrel. The M2 stock, even though it's an M1 is Inland.

    The only change I made was to install a M2 mag.release. This is a must if you want to ever use 30 round magazines. It has a tab that hold the mag at the right angle for feeding.
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    Re: Inland M-1 Carbine

    I have 2 Inlands, a 12/43 (from CMP) and a 4/44 (from GunBroker).

    As noted yours may be a very rare original version with no bayonet lug. Have the small fore end stock? The "pot belly" stocks were installed during post war refurbishing.

    The M1C is maybe my favorite rifle to play with. If I were a soldier in WW II this is what I would have wanted to carry. Forget that 10 pound Garand with only 8 rounds in it.





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