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    Interesting Info About Semi-Auto Rifles

    This was sent to me by a friend.

    Two pictures to give you some perspective to a modern day false narrative.
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    A hundred and twelve years ago, in 1907...our great grandparents were first able to buy the first rifle pictured: The semi-automatic Winchester Model 1907. It remained in production until 1958.
    This is a gun they could buy from a Sears catalogue and have delivered via US Post. Without any sort of background checks - the HORROR! It was/is a semi-automatic, high powered centerfire rifle with a detachable, high capacity magazine (5 -, 10- or 20-rounds).
    About 400,000 of these were produced and sold before World War II. Civilians had hundreds of thousands of these semi-automatic rifles for 40 years, while US soldiers were still being issued old fashioned bolt action rifles.
    The 1907 fired just as fast as a modern AR-15, the second rifle pictured, or semi-automatic AK-47. The "bullet" (.351 Winchester) was actually larger than those fired by the more modern looking weapons! (The AR-15 fires a round of either .223 or 5.56mm, which is smaller, while the AK-47 fires a 7.62mm round which is roughly the same size). By the way, the "AR" in AR-15 stands for Armalite Rifle, the company which first manufactured it. It does not and has never stood for "assault rifle."
    The two rifles are functionally identical. The only differences between the 1907 and the controversial and much feared AR-15 is the modern black plastic stock, the carrying handle above the upper receiver, and a pistol grip behind the trigger housing, which aids only in steadying the weapon. It does not in any way increase the lethality of either the rifle or the round it fires. Cosmetics, in other words.
    To summarize:
    The semi-automatic so-called "assault rifle" is 110 years old. It isn't new in any way. The semi-automatic rifle was not a weapon of war. The government MADE IT a weapon of war 40 years after civilians had them, but added a fully automatic feature for military use - a feature which is unlawful and unavailable to civilian owners, and has been since 1938.
    The semi-auto can be safely owned by civilians. The proof is that literally 3+ generations of adults owned and used them responsibly since the early part of the 20th century and no one ever even noticed. Or cared.
    Want to fix the horror of mass shootings? Fix the things that have changed for the worse in the last 50 years because the rifle technology in question was here long before this insanity. It's not a problem of firearms. It's a problem of the heart, the person without conscience, the person without any moral compass. The person who is evil for lack of any other accurately descriptive term.



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    Oh there you go using logic again.....
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    These were assault weapons back in the 1800s.

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    There's no talking any sense to those people, NOW they are just going to want to ban those older rifles, too.

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    You cannot present facts to anyone who has his own "truth." Just ask Joe Biden.
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    As I recall, the officer in charge of taking out Bonnie & Clyde bought his Remington Model 8 semi-auto at a local hardware store. It makes sense to buy your tools at a hardware store.
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    And don't forget that the Mauser 98 was one of the other early assault weapon with most bolt action rifles based on the action. Not only is it a sniper rifle it is an assault weapon!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nrah View Post
    There's no talking any sense to those people, NOW they are just going to want to ban those older rifles, too.
    Some on a Leftist website already do want to ban them or limit magazine capacity to three rounds.
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    Everytime there's some kind of random mass shooting SOME OF US at least try to discuss the social and mental health issues involved and NOT the weapons used. When the talk does get to the weapon choice...I've always pointed out that "military-style" rifles with 30 rd detachable magazines have been in civilian hands AT LEAST since the end of WWII in the M1 carbine. Can't remember ever hearing of anyone going crazy and shooting up a theater in the 50's, 60's, 70's...(well, you get the idea) with an M1 carbine, can you..?? People who actually want to help are asking: What has changed..??? When we ask that question...firearm availability is off the table. They've been there all along but it's only in recent years that we see people making the choice to commit these horrific murders.
    I appreciate the OP's identifying even older examples of weapons available. America-hating Democrats are fully invested in an effort to totally disarm American citizens and there is NO question that their "longview goal" is to end the legal private ownership of firearms...PERIOD and even that won't prevent mass killings if someone is committed to doing it and Democrats KNOW IT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guido4198 View Post
    America-hating Democrats are fully invested in an effort to totally disarm American citizens and there is NO question that their "longview goal" is to end the legal private ownership of firearms...PERIOD and even that won't prevent mass killings if someone is committed to doing it and Democrats KNOW IT.
    Absolutely correct, sir. "Sensible gun control" is not about public safety, it's about CONTROL!
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