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    Quote Originally Posted by LimaCharlie View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Verminator View Post
    You know........a lot of people wonder why the FBI and other agencies have gone with the 9mm.

    The answer is simple.......far more women agents these days and women usually have smaller and weaker hands than men.......thus the smaller 9mm works better for them.......and most men handle the smaller gun just fine.

    Back in the 60s the NYPD issued Three-Inch HB Model 36s to all their female officers. Same reason.

    I strongly suspect ballistics are a secondary issue.
    Yup. Because multiple studies have shown that ballistics (caliber) IS a "secondary issue".
    Hitting what you aim at and being able to do it repeatedly and quickly is primary.
    The best SD gun for YOU is the biggest caliber gun that YOU can put 3 shots on target in 3 seconds with. If you can do that with a 9mm but not a 45, then the 9 is a better SD gun & caliber for you. Three center mass hits will almost always trump one hit and multiple misses or on hit and no follow up shots.
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    Shot placement and bullet weight/type....? fwiw
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    As many know, my choice is an N frame in 45 ACP. It is what I can handle most comfortably. Are there better choices? Not for me at this time. Ask me when I am 75.

    My eldest cousin is currently preferring his 1911s to be 9mm versions. The 45 is too punishing on his arms and wrists. Also, for him the 9’s improve his hits on target because the 1911s apparently recoil less when 9mm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BC38 View Post
    Yup. Because multiple studies have shown that ballistics (caliber) IS a "secondary issue".
    Hitting what you aim at and being able to do it repeatedly and quickly is primary.
    The best SD gun for YOU is the biggest caliber gun that YOU can put 3 shots on target in 3 seconds with. If you can do that with a 9mm but not a 45, then the 9 is a better SD gun & caliber for you. Three center mass hits will almost always trump one hit and multiple misses or on hit and no follow up shots.
    Yes........for the average guy there is no reason to stop and be satisfied with the 9mm if you want the best performance.

    Practice until you master the .45 ACP (or something bigger, if you wish).

    Maybe you will run into a situation where you have only one shot and you'll be glad you had the most destructive round for that one shot.

    You might want to be like Ted Nugent and settle for nothing less than the 10mm.

    I've noticed that the recoil from the Gen 4 Glocks in .45 ACP is far easier to handle than any other .45 I've used.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rule3 View Post
    The 38 special is to small and only 6 shots
    The 9mm has good capacity but is to small
    The 45 Is so big and has limited capacity
    The 10 mm is much more powerful but agents can't deal with the recoil
    The 40 SW gives more capacity. less recoil that a 10mm and almost the bullet size of a 45, but is has still has to much recoil for some new snowflakes

    After all the money, testing and wasted firearm purchases lets use:

    THE 9MM.

    Now, since the FBI likes the 9mm again, the general public now hates the 40SW and 40 SW handguns have flooded the market.

    Kinda like what is the new I Phone!

    What happens, when the FIB decides "Oh, we changed our minds, we like the 40 S&W, again."?

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    The FBI like other federal, military, state, and local agencies buy handguns and ammo primarily on how many new recruits can qualify to be politically correct and then low cost/low bid.
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    I don't worry much over the 9mm/.45 debate.
    Bullet performance has come a very long way since the 1986 Miami FBI shootout.
    Put a well performing bullet where it needs to go and all other discussion is moot.
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    9mm?! .45?! Wimps. BWAHAHAHA!

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