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    Shot placement & type of bullet. fwiw


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    45ACP........because shooting twice is silly.....

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    Assuming both have good bullets the 124 grain 9 can't possibly equal the power of the 230 grain .45 ACP so why discuss it?
    "Supposin' I was to go to work and learn how to... to read writin'. Well, how'd I know that the feller that... that wrote the writin' was a writin' the writin' right? Here I might be just a readin' wrong writin', don't ya see?"
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    We're ignoring the new players on the block. 10MM and 5.7...

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    9mm expands......45 acp doesn't shrink.

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    The OP's linked article cites Greg Ellifritz. His study, An Alternative Look at Handgun Stopping Power, is worth the time to read.

    Conclusion... I've stopped worrying about trying to find the "ultimate" bullet. There isn't one. And I've stopped feeling the need to strap on my .45 every time I leave the house out of fear that my 9mm doesn't have enough "stopping power." Folks, carry what you want. Caliber really isn't all that important.

    No matter which gun you choose, pick one that is reliable and train with it until you can get fast accurate hits. Nothing beyond that really matters!

    https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alte...stopping-power
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChattanoogaPhil View Post
    The OP's linked article cites Greg Ellifritz. His study, An Alternative Look at Handgun Stopping Power, is worth the time to read.

    Conclusion... I've stopped worrying about trying to find the "ultimate" bullet. There isn't one. And I've stopped feeling the need to strap on my .45 every time I leave the house out of fear that my 9mm doesn't have enough "stopping power." Folks, carry what you want. Caliber really isn't all that important.

    No matter which gun you choose, pick one that is reliable and train with it until you can get fast accurate hits. Nothing beyond that really matters!

    https://www.buckeyefirearms.org/alte...stopping-power
    I disagree with the "expert" Mr. Ellifritz.

    Ok.......he says........."Folks, carry what you want. Caliber really isn't all that important."

    Actually, it is.

    There are variations in power......some large, some small.

    In the right circumstance.........even a little more would end a fight.

    Like in the famous FBI shootout in Miami........two agents died and five were wounded........

    MAYBE because a 9mm slug stopped inches away from the heart of the major perp--allowing him go on a rampage with his Mini 14.

    A .45 ACP or a .40 S&W would have blown up the heart.
    "Supposin' I was to go to work and learn how to... to read writin'. Well, how'd I know that the feller that... that wrote the writin' was a writin' the writin' right? Here I might be just a readin' wrong writin', don't ya see?"
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    I do anesthesia for a living. The last bad guy I saw hit with 4 45acp rounds didn't make it. The last bad guy I saw hit with 9mm took 9 rounds and eventually walked out of the hospital.

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    I find the Glock 30 Gen 4 in .45 ACP to have the most manageable recoil of any .45 I've ever shot.

    Weight and double springs seem to have benefits. Recoil is actually mild to me.

    And a total capacity of 11 rounds (14 with the big magazine) is plenty. So capacity is not a problem either.

    It's a small brick, but with a good IWB holster and good belt it carries just fine.

    I can shoot it accurately and pretty fast, too.

    So......it works well for me.

    A 9mm might be a little handier and have a little more capacity.

    But........is a .45 a better one-shot fight-stopper with that big old Boolet? Seems logical.......BUT.......

    I don't know. Nobody seems to know for sure.

    Until I do know.......I'll carry the .45 ACP instead of the 9mm.
    "Supposin' I was to go to work and learn how to... to read writin'. Well, how'd I know that the feller that... that wrote the writin' was a writin' the writin' right? Here I might be just a readin' wrong writin', don't ya see?"
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    You know........a lot of people wonder why the FBI and other agencies have gone with the 9mm.

    The answer is simple.......far more women agents these days and women usually have smaller and weaker hands than men.......thus the smaller 9mm works better for them.......and most men handle the smaller gun just fine.

    Back in the 60s the NYPD issued Three-Inch HB Model 36s to all their female officers. Same reason.

    I strongly suspect ballistics are a secondary issue.
    "Supposin' I was to go to work and learn how to... to read writin'. Well, how'd I know that the feller that... that wrote the writin' was a writin' the writin' right? Here I might be just a readin' wrong writin', don't ya see?"
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