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    Read the set of the 'Living Dead' in Georgia? is getting bad flack. Those people look like me after a hard day in the field. bet they smell as bad as I do too.
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    I won't let my guns near steel cased ammo. Even if I had an AK, I wouldn't use it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jimg11 View Post
    That WWII Steel Cased .45 ACP was extremely reliable. It was primed with Corrosive primers but even today about 75 years later it usually fire
    and be accurate. Just have to clean your guns.
    Back when I was newly married and a lot poorer. I had a Colt lightweight commander in 45acp. I bought boxes and boxes of the the steel cased Remington -UMC 45 acp military ammo and shot it. Reloaded it too. Never a problem..........Now days only brass for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Happy Kaboomer View Post
    Back when I was newly married and a lot poorer. I had a Colt lightweight commander in 45acp. I bought boxes and boxes of the the steel cased Remington -UMC 45 acp military ammo and shot it. Reloaded it too. Never a problem..........Now days only brass for me.
    Won't do that with the Ruskie stuff. I do have one question, how do you apply a crimp to a steel case? With a LE Wilson die and a ball pein hammer maybe?
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    I use nothing but steel in my AKs. SKS, and other similar rifles.

    Gee I wonder how many billions of rounds have been used in the billions of those rifles??

    I sure am not gonna reload the stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SidecarFlip View Post
    Steel case junk is fine for an AK and that is about it. Why would you spend a buck for a good gun and shoot junk it. Makes no sense to me. I'm cheap but not that cheap.
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    1: No, steel cases do not damage the barrel. Steel cases use a much softer metal than the barrel itself.

    2: No, steel cases do not damage extractors. (See above). When extractors break while using brass cases, you certainly don't hear people saying "Don't use brass cases, they break extractors".

    3: No, Bi-metal bullet jackets do not damage the barrel. (See #1).

    4: No, current imported ammo (especially with the 9x19mm caliber) do not have steel cores if a magnet sticks to the bullet. (See #3). If the cores of any pistol round had steel in them, BATFE would not have allowed the ammo to be imported since the rounds would be considered armor piercing.

    I've gone thru several thousand rounds of steel cased ammo from various Russian manufactures and the only problem I've had was a handful of failures to fire, and I've used 1K of Sellier & Bellot's steel cased Range Safe ammo with zero problems. (Hands down the S&B Range Safe 9mm was the best most reliable steel cased ammo I've ever shot out of my G19 practice gun).
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    Quote Originally Posted by steelyou View Post
    1: No, steel cases do not damage the barrel. Steel cases use a much softer metal than the barrel itself.

    2: No, steel cases do not damage extractors. (See above). When extractors break while using brass cases, you certainly don't hear people saying "Don't use brass cases, they break extractors".

    3: No, Bi-metal bullet jackets do not damage the barrel. (See #1).

    4: No, current imported ammo (especially with the 9x19mm caliber) do not have steel cores if a magnet sticks to the bullet. (See #3). If the cores of any pistol round had steel in them, BATFE would not have allowed the ammo to be imported since the rounds would be considered armor piercing.

    I've gone thru several thousand rounds of steel cased ammo from various Russian manufactures and the only problem I've had was a handful of failures to fire, and I've used 1K of Sellier & Bellot's steel cased Range Safe ammo with zero problems. (Hands down the S&B Range Safe 9mm was the best most reliable steel cased ammo I've ever shot out of my G19 practice gun).

    I don't know what your experience level is . Your a junior member here. However I have extensive experience in and with firearms and ammo. Both as a LEO Trainer, Civilian Trainer. Armorer, Gun Smith and Gun shop employee. I have seen more broken extractors, ejectors and problems with Steel Cased ammunition that I care to see. I tell everyone to stay away from steel cased ammo of any type. UNLESS your are prepared for a gun failure of some type. I teach- train people who's lives may depend on their firearm working every time. I see steel ammo as an potential problem in the safety and well being of a firearm .. and its shooter !

    just my thoughts coming from years of factual data !!!

    PS i have never seen a brass case break an extractor. Metal fatigue does !!
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    What about steel cases for 223/556?
    Is it problematic in bottle-necked rifle cartridges too?
    Always looking for a deal on more reloading components & ammo. I once tried to see things from the liberal perspective - but I discovered I'm not flexible enough to get my head up my ...


 
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