John,
I have a 631 and have owned a couple of the 16-4's.
I must confess that they didn't get used much and when they were mostly with .32 Long rounds. Very accurate and mild mannered.
I haven't seen one in years, and the 4" is still on my list. Anyone have a pic, range report, jacketed or cast info??
John Luke 22:36 Romans 12:17-21 Ephesians 4:26-32 S&W38/357 "Life brings sorrows and joys alike. It is what a man does with them - not what they do to him - that is the true test of his mettle." T. Roosevelt
John,
I have a 631 and have owned a couple of the 16-4's.
I must confess that they didn't get used much and when they were mostly with .32 Long rounds. Very accurate and mild mannered.
".... Evil Flourishes When Good Men Do Nothing...."
PG Now your talking about my favorite target round. I prefer the six inch barrel for paper punching. Please don't let Giz see this thread you will never shut him up.I will look up some of my target loads and post them.
I have this 631 4". After I got done shooting the 500 rounds of reloads, I haven't re-reloaded the empty brass as of yet. I only have shot 32 long in it, but as Drew says, it is very mild mannered and accurate.
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Here is a picture of my 16-4 with 6" barrel:
Here is my 631 (a 4" Kit gun chambered in .32 H&R magnum):
I have shot the 16-4 more than the 631 (a delight to carry in the field). Mostly, I shoot .32 S&W Long cases with a 100 gr Group Buy Keith bullet.
They are both a fine addition to any man's collection.
Dale53
This is my 6 inch 16-4. I am thinking of sending it to Hamilton Bowen and having them install one of their cylinders, reamed out to .32-20 WCF. That way I can shoot .32 long, .32 magnum, or .32-20 using the extra cylinder.![]()
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Originally Posted by Poohgyrr
Hello John
I have a 6" model 16-4 that I got N.I.B, From a fellow S&WCA member back in 2001 and shown below. I expanded as far as I could go with the caber hand loading for it, and took it to Hamilton Bowen's shop early last fall for a Federal .327 Magnum conversion. His conversion is simple as all he has to do is Lengthen the cylinder throats 1/8" to convert one. He also matches all of the cylinder throats in his conversion process and it is a very cheap caliber process at just $95.00. I spent some time with him in his shop discussing this conversion prior to leaving just my cylinder & crane for the caliber conversion. It took about two weeks for it to be completed and when I picked it up, he sold me some once fired brass as factory ammo was scarce at that time.
I came home and scoured the Internet for loading information and found an excellent article in " Shooting Times" see the link below. I settled on a load using Accurate Arm's #7 Powder dispensed at 10.2 Grains using a Sierra 90 Grain sports Master bullet and a CCI Small Magnum primer. I then bumped the load to 10.5 grains and got one hole results at the 25 yard line with it. I then fired some of my old reloaded .32 H&R magnum loads and discovered it was actually more accurate after this conversion.
I hunt a friends property in the lower Cumberland plateau, and took my revolver Deer hunting with me last year for the opening day of our deer season here in East Tennessee. My friend shared with me before opening day, that they had been bothered recently by a very large Bob Cat. Evidently the cat had been in his back yard twice in the past in broad daylight. One time his wife was working in her flower beds when it showed up, and another time it tried to take one of his house cats for dinner. He asked if I saw the cat if I would remove it ? I told him I would take care of it if I came across it.
I went home and loaded 300 rounds of Federal .327 Magnum ammo and practiced with it all at my range until I felt comfortable with it accuracy wise. I entered the woods at 6:30 on opening day and sat in my usual spot. By quarter to Eight I was wondering why I had not seen any Deer ? In the past this has been an excellent spot for deer and I normally saw at least a half dozen deer by 8:00, but not this morning. I noticed some movement about 100 yards off in the heavy cover, so I watched intently to see what it was ? When the moving animal got about 75 yards from me, it walked out on the deer run I was sitting by, and it was the large wild cat my buddy had spoke of. I had my S&W 16-4 sitting in my lap as it headed right for me, When it got to what I felt a comfortable distance, I raised up my revolver and cocked the action.
It heard me cock the gun and stopped in it's tracks, turned and snarled at me. I squeezed off the shot into his chest and he flipped over onto his back, kicked three times and died. I then, called my son in law who was hunting with me that day on my cell phone and told him of my harvest. He walked up to where I was at and was more excited about my kill than I was, as it was his first deer hunt. The outside temperature was 67 degrees that morning, so I had to dress him out to keep the pelt from spoiling./ When I dressed him out, I saw that the Sierra slug had entered his chest taken out his left lung and exited out his opposite rib cage. His stomach was huge being the size of a youth football and was chucked full of fresh rabbit. It was very evident to me that this cat had a big appetite
My son in law paced off the shot twice while I was dressing out the animal and it showed to be 35 yards. The load and caliber had proven itself well. We carried it out of the woods back to the farm and showed my friend. He was glad to see the problem gone from his farm. We tossed it on his grain scale and it showed to weigh 40 pounds dressed weight. That told me this cat had to be in excess of 50 pounds live weight. I sent it out and had it mounted. The Taxidermist shared with me that it was the largest one he had ever seen or mounted.
He had to use Two mounting forms spliced together to fit the animal due to his size and length. It measured 41-1/2" long from nose to butt and he said he had mounted well over 300 bob cats from all over the united states but this one was easily the largest. I am having our local game officers look into past bob cat kills in Tennessee as the guy that mounted him feels he may be a state record size kill. Here he is shown below the day I harvested him, and now mounted....
http://www.shootingtimes.com/ammunition ... ndex2.html
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That was a great story Hammerdown , that cat looks like it ate very well. Out here in Oregon our problem is mountain lions.
Hammerdown,
a great tribute to the lowly .32, and a fine bobcat tale, too! That revolver earned a virtual notch in the stocks!
xtm
Originally Posted by c pierce
Hello c pierce
Thank you sir, I appreciate your kind words. I have been watching my hunting spot where this Bob Cat was taken last year as it too has been the recent home of a Mountain Lion, and I hope to see it tomorrow! The state of Tennessee does not recognize the existence of Mountain Lions here.. I saw it's Paw prints in the soft mud and I sure Recognized it, and will be awaiting it with my S&W in .327 Magnum... Hammerdown
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