+ Reply to Thread
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 10 of 18
Like Tree20Likes

Thread: 1909 M&P .38 Special Pre Model 10 Revolver

  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Member #
    9967
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    3
    Liked
    6 times

    1909 M&P .38 Special Pre Model 10 Revolver

    Hi guys. I'm new to the forum and S&W ownership also! I wanted a wheel gun for awhile and found this at the gun how last week. Paid 230 for the gun and got the s&w holster from a different table for $8. The serial numbers do match. What do you guys think of the gun itself and was it a good price? Thoughts appreciated.
    John

    Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1351199783.583089.jpg
Views: 1936
Size:  27.8 KB
    Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1351199802.144927.jpg
Views: 1263
Size:  27.4 KB
    Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1351199820.582016.jpg
Views: 1185
Size:  27.4 KB
    Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1351199834.030996.jpg
Views: 1428
Size:  29.5 KB


    Thanks,
    John

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Member #
    88
    Join Date
    Jan 2009
    Location
    Twangtown
    Posts
    5,262
    Liked
    6433 times
    John,

    Welcome!
    I was gonna say, "Show me," but you stole my smallish thunder and gave us the pics, already. The gun has some character, if it's mechanically good-to-go, I'd opine you did fine on the price.
    Here's an M&P, circa 1948, that recently joined my fold:

    Click image for larger version

Name:	mAndP_0241.jpg
Views:	3219
Size:	43.8 KB
ID:	10191

    I love these old long action gun's feel, I wish they could tell us their stories.

    Mike

  3. #3
    Supporting Member
    Supporting Member

    Member #
    8733
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Ashford, AL
    Posts
    8,866
    Liked
    13578 times
    You done good, John! to the forum from the Wiregrass!
    Guy

    S&WCA #2629 | Ex-Navy Vietnam Vet. / Submariner | NRA Member


  4. #4
    Supporting Member
    Supporting Member

    Member #
    1419
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    3,583
    Liked
    3600 times

    Welcome John!

    Name:  .38-44 011.jpg
Views: 2189
Size:  95.9 KB(click to enlarge) It appears you have a Military & Police Model of 1905 Change 2, likely built in 1909. A caution or two is in order. Your gun lacks a hardened cylinder so if all else is okay I'd stick to light wadcutters. The gun is not equipped with the improved hammerblock. You may wish to keep the firing pin resting on an empty chamber.

    As to value you are likely at about market. We are speaking of the most prolific revolver of all time and unless they are in pristine condition, an odd variant, uniquely marked or possess some other desired characteristic, they are not prized. My 1902 and 1905 pictured sold for similar money.

    Again welcome,

    Waidmann

  5. #5
    Junior Member
    Member #
    9967
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    3
    Liked
    6 times

    1909 M&P .38 Special Pre Model 10 Revolver

    Thanks all. Anything specifically I can sight check to make sure it's sound to fire? Guy I bought it from did mention he fired it last week.
    John


    Thanks,
    John

  6. #6
    Supporting Member
    Supporting Member

    Member #
    1419
    Join Date
    Jan 2010
    Posts
    3,583
    Liked
    3600 times
    If it is not shaving lead as of last week I suppose it is still in time properly locking on each chamber which is the most critical aspect. I repeat my caution on using wadcutters, avoid jacketed ammo and no +P or high performance stuff. This piece is about 103 years old and from about the dawn of smokeless.
    Oldgungeezer likes this.

  7. #7
    Supporting Member
    Supporting Member

    Member #
    3177
    Join Date
    Jan 2011
    Location
    Beautiful N/E Texas
    Posts
    3,904
    Liked
    6010 times
    I have a 1902, first change, shipped in 1904.
    I fire it often, but only with factory velocity wad cutter reloads. The gun is extremely accurate and fun to shoot, but like Waidmann said, NO +P or high performance stuff. It's a black powder gun and they continue to go up in price every year. $238.00 out the door for a functioning M&P Hand Ejector & holster is a fair deal.
    Oldgungeezer likes this.

  8. #8
    Junior Member
    Member #
    9967
    Join Date
    Oct 2012
    Posts
    3
    Liked
    6 times

    1909 M&P .38 Special Pre Model 10 Revolver

    Thanks for all the info. Sorry if this is a stupid question but how can I tell if the ammo is +p? Will the box say? I mean the grain seems to be 158 grain on regular and +p so how to tell the difference? Is this regular or +p?

    Name:  ImageUploadedByTapatalk1351303857.245039.jpg
Views: 1122
Size:  24.3 KB


    Thanks,
    John

  9. #9
    Supporting Member
    Supporting Member

    Member #
    3749
    Join Date
    Apr 2011
    Location
    Michigan
    Posts
    7,429
    Liked
    11883 times
    Yes all ammunition that is rated +P is marked on the box.
    Whenever You Try To Make Something IDIOT PROOF.........They Will Just Make Better IDIOTS!
    You can lead a Man to Congress, but you can't make him Think Milton Berle

    Due to the rising cost of Ammunition a Warning Shot will no longer be fired, Thank You For Your Understanding.

    NRA Life Member since 1988, And Proud Of It.

  10. #10
    Senior Member
    Member #
    8963
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Dixie
    Posts
    1,297
    Liked
    1177 times
    You can also buy low pressure rounds for the old guns. Prior to when S&W started heat treating the cylinders? Buy Cowboy Action class loads. It will say it in the box. My early one should have a treated cylinder and the experts here told me to stick with cowboy loads in it as well. Cheaper Than Dirt seems to have the best selection of Cowboy and obsolete caliber ammunition, I can even get get .38 Long Colt for one of my oddballs there. Track of the Wolf has black powder .38 Special if you wanted to try that instead of modern ammo, but it's a mess to clean up after a range day.
    Oldgungeezer likes this.
    I am NOT totally useless... I make a great bad example.


 

Links

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts

Similar Threads

  1. 637 .38 Special Revolver
    By spiiinsugar in forum S&W Revolvers 1945 to Present
    Replies: 11
    Last Post: 11-10-2012, 12:39 AM
  2. My first revolver - Model 64 - 4 inch 38 Special on order today ...
    By Willboat in forum S&W Revolvers 1945 to Present
    Replies: 16
    Last Post: 04-10-2012, 10:25 PM
  3. My 38 - was it manufactured in 1905, 1909, 1918 ?
    By redsail in forum S&W Revolvers 1857 to 1945
    Replies: 1
    Last Post: 11-10-2011, 08:04 PM
  4. Circa 1955 S&W .38 Chiefs Special Revolver Model No. 36
    By jpepper103 in forum S&W Revolvers 1945 to Present
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: 09-14-2011, 08:35 PM
  5. S & W Model 10-5 Revolver 38 S&W Special CTG
    By mattoxh in forum S&W Revolvers 1945 to Present
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: 08-18-2011, 09:05 PM

Search tags for this page

1909 s&w revolver
,

1909 smith & wesson revolver

,

1909 smith and wesson 38 special

,
38 s&w revolver 1909
,
picture of a pre-1945 s&w 38 special
,

s&w m&p 38 special reviews

,

s&w pre model 10

,
smith and wesson .38 special pre-model 10
,
smith and wesson 38 special 1909
,

smith and wesson pre model 10

Click on a term to search for related topics.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.4
Copyright © 2014 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.
SmithandWessonForums.com is not affiliated with Smith & Wesson. We are an enthusiast site and fans of Smith & Wesson Firearms. To visit the official Smith & Wesson site, click here: Smith-Wesson.com.