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    Shooting s&w sd9 low?????

    I recently bought an S&W SD9 - I have put just under 300 rounds thru it and I am consistently shooting down and left. Im off about 3 when shooting @ 15 yards and can hardly hit the 6 target at 20 yards. I am using Winchester 115 gr. FMJ. I dont think it should be necessary to adjust my POA to hit the target. Is there something Im doing wrong or have there been complaints of these guns shooting low? Do I need to return the gun or move to a different grain bullet? I am dead on when shooting my brother-in-laws XDm 9, and he is shooting low as well with my SD 9. Any suggestions would be very much appreciated.

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    Hey!
    I have a similar issue with another S&W gun.
    Read my post here:
    S&W Bodyguard .38 Special (New with Polymer Frame)

    I'm not aware of the solution but I'm trying to get a hold of S&W rep.

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    You might want to talk to the customer service dept and find out what bullet weight your pistol was measured to shoot.
    Most manufactures have different front & rear sights they make available to adjust your POI/POA. I think S&W does as well. If they do, ask them to send you a new sight set that will adjust you POA by 3" higher. If you need to buy them it should only run around $20 to get a new set. My wifes Walther PPS was shooting about 2" low. I called S&S/Walther and they sent me out a new front sight that was shorter. Now we're on center every time.

    I wish you a successful journey in getting this resolved.
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    If I had this issue I would do two things:
    1. Fire the handgun from a bench-rest using a couple of different brand/weight cartridges in three to five shot groups. Record the information and compare the results.
    2. If the P.O.A. is off save the targets, call Smith and send them the gun along with the targets and have them make it right.
    I am not doubting your shooting abilities, this just takes as much of the "Human Error" as possible, it will also give S&W a start reference.
    They may want to know how you are aiming. Apple on a fence post, or covering the P.O.A. with the front blade. You can correct the windage (left or right) with the rear sight, but elevation is pretty much non-adjustable.
    If this is going to be used as a personal protection piece, you don't have time to remember "Shoots Low Left, Aim High Right"
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    Quote Originally Posted by RDLouks View Post
    If I had this issue I would do two things:
    1. Fire the handgun from a bench-rest using a couple of different brand/weight cartridges in three to five shot groups. Record the information and compare the results.
    2. If the P.O.A. is off save the targets, call Smith and send them the gun along with the targets and have them make it right.
    I am not doubting your shooting abilities, this just takes as much of the "Human Error" as possible, it will also give S&W a start reference.
    They may want to know how you are aiming. Apple on a fence post, or covering the P.O.A. with the front blade. You can correct the windage (left or right) with the rear sight, but elevation is pretty much non-adjustable.
    If this is going to be used as a personal protection piece, you don't have time to remember "Shoots Low Left, Aim High Right"
    I totally agree - when it comes to personal protection, there's no time to think where you need to move the gun to hit the taget. My gun has fixed sights (both front and rear) so I can't even adjust anything...
    In my case, several shooters reported exactly the same problem - shooting high and to the left so it's gotta be something they messed up. And, yes, I was shooting from a bench rest just like you're supposed to when trying to resolve this kind of stuff.
    Last edited by Vovan; 04-26-2011 at 02:22 PM.

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    On the S&W website I looked up the owners manual, the front sights appear to be interchangable although the owners manual doesnt state it as fact, and the rear sight is designed to adjust for windage. The front sight appears to be the same design as what's on my Sig P238. and it's interchangable too.
    If it's shooting low a shorter front sight blade will resolve nearly all of the issue.
    Call customer service and ask them for a front sight 2 numbers lower than what is put on it as standard.

    I certainly don't have all the answers, but I'll give you a couple ideas.
    If all else fails and there's no other resolve, order a replacement front blade of the same height and trim it about 3/32" off the top and repaint the front sight.
    ADDED NOTE: If the sights are Tritium I don't know that you're going to find a shorter front sight.
    You'll need a drift punch to remove the front blade to exchange it. Looking from the back of the pistol you'll need to tap out the front sight from the [rt to lft] INCORRECT STATEMENT, they go out Left to Right.
    It has a very slight wedge shape to keep it tight once it's in place.

    It doesn't sound like there's going to be an overnight or simple fix to this for you.
    I certainly hope you can get it resolved to your satisfaction quickly. Best wishes,
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    Last edited by gearchecker; 04-26-2011 at 06:38 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by gearchecker View Post
    On the S&W website I looked up the owners manual, the front sights appear to be interchangable although the owners manual doesnt state it as fact, and the rear sight is designed to adjust for windage. The front sight appears to be the same design as what's on my Sig P238. and it's interchangable too.
    If it's shooting low a shorter front sight blade will resolve nearly all of the issue.
    Call customer service and ask them for a front sight 2 numbers lower than what is put on it as standard.

    If all else fails and there's no other resolve, order a replacement front blade of the same height and trim it about 3/32" off the top and repaint the front sight.
    You'll need a drift punch to remove the front blade to exchange it. Looking from the back of the pistol you'll need to tap out the front sight from the right to the left. It has a very slight wedge shape to keep it tight once it's in place.

    It doesn't sound like there's going to be an overnight or simple fix to this for you.
    I certainly hope you can get it resolved to your satisfaction quickly. Best wishes,
    ~gearchecker~
    If I am not mistaken the SD9 comes standard with a Tritium Night Sight on the front, not sure if they come in different heights. Is the front sight different, because on the M&P the rear sight comes out from the left to the right. (when looking at the rear of the slide) Not doubting, just checking.
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    My bad...Left to Right.
    I'll correct my post. Sorry bout' that.
    Just trying to throw out some ideas based on the issues I've dealt with concerning my pistols with similar problems.
    From all that's being discussed, is he going to end up with different bullet weights and powder loads to help raise the POI ??
    Last edited by gearchecker; 04-26-2011 at 06:41 PM.
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    The SD9 did come standard with a Tritium Night Sight on the front.

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    One of my best friends and I bought one of these each. He wanted his first carry gun, and I thought the SD9 would be a good replacement for my Sigma. We both have consistent issues with these guns shooting low and left. I am an MP with years of pistol experience and up until the SD9 never would have thought it a feat to hit center mass at 10 yards. Using a bench rest did little to help. Personally, I have found nothing but inconsistencies with the weapons performance. At least I could hit what I was aiming at with the Sigma. Even with the rear sight adjusted, it just never hits where I intend it to; which, for a pistol named "Self Defense 9" is more than a little concerning. I am very interested to see how this pans out, but for now I'll stick with my Beretta 92.

    Cheers, and best of luck Kohawk01


 

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