US propaganda news story....2 Russian bombers fly close to Alaska....BIG BS flag.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin View Post
    Yup!

    When I was on the America we tested the Russian response time by launching an Alpha strike from Vestfjord in Norway.
    We caught them totally unawares.

    We lost their shadow vessels by driving right through each and every storm we saw in the north Atlantic on our way there.
    Some of those storms were pretty hairy.
    Once I stuck my head out past the blast doors on the hangar bay and looked UP at a wave we were about to plow through!
    The best way to describe the experience is to be in an elevator going up and down 12 stories for three weeks straight.
    Even some old salts were starting to loose it.
    During my AF career I spent a VERY cold winter at remote Radar site in Iceland (Rockville AFS) and we had to track the Bear A/C coming out and transiting the GIUK gap enroute to Cuba. SO, it was you guys who stirred the nest.

    You mentioned waves around a carrier...what do you think those waves looked like from the bridge of a Forrest Sherman class Destroyer (USS Morton, DD948)? We had some 700 hull numbers in our squadron and they would be drawing sub pay.
    "Lord I'm not askin' to go right now but, if you call me now, I pray my remains may be found in a pile of hot brass surrounded by my dead enemies!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trebor View Post
    Being a loyal American does not require, and is not the same as, being loyal to the government. So I chose the first.
    Thanks. I never saw it that way. It makes me feel better.
    I took an oath to the Constitution, and as long as I was in uniform, to obey those lawful orders given me.
    But now I am not in uniform, but my oath to the US Constitution still stands, and always will.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackcloud2 View Post
    When I was on the USS Midway in the late 70's the Soviets tried to fly over our carrier group often primarily with Bears, but sometimes with Badgers. To the OP, you're correct that by then Bears were considered to be intelligence gathering threats, not bombers. The Badgers though were thought to be armed. We were also constantly trailed by spy trawlers and likely subs too, but those we couldn't see!
    ...and they could not see our own subs trailing them.
    Either way, we and they both knew there was no danger of anyone firing a shot.

    They sure get mad when you moon them though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NWDave View Post
    During my AF career I spent a VERY cold winter at remote Radar site in Iceland (Rockville AFS) and we had to track the Bear A/C coming out and transiting the GIUK gap enroute to Cuba. SO, it was you guys who stirred the nest.
    Guilty as charged. My apologies, Dave. They kinda went ape*** after that little exercise.
    It showed to all of NATO they were completely vulnerable from their Norway border.
    It was also kinda awesome boring holes in the water in Vestfjord, Norway.
    There were huge mountains all around and we were sailing in circles all around them
    The weather was cool and crisp with that healthy scent in the air of early Autumn.
    here is a pic of us there at the time.
    If you click the yellow bar to make the pic bigger, you will get a feeling of the SUBLIME that we had looking up at them.

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    While stationed in Alaska this was a weekly event. We would launch 2 F15s to escort them out of US territory. Never did they pose a threat. Just curious I guess.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin View Post
    Yup!
    We lost their shadow vessels by driving right through each and every storm we saw in the north Atlantic on our way there.
    Some of those storms were pretty hairy.
    Once I stuck my head out past the blast doors on the hangar bay and looked UP at a wave we were about to plow through!
    The best way to describe the experience is to be in an elevator going up and down 12 stories for three weeks straight.
    Even some old salts were starting to loose it.
    I have a lot of respect for sailors. Especially sailors serving on tin cans and in the flat bottom Navy. Embarked on a 805 foot, 40,000 ton helicopter assault ship didn't guarantee a smooth sea. That thing rocked enough that aircrews would fight to launch just to get off of it for an hour or two. But the escorts...... I had a few meetings on frigates and destroyers where I noticed footprints overhead in the passageways. 60 degree rolls weren't that uncommon in heavy seas. Jeeezzz...
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    Quote Originally Posted by USMC Snakedriver View Post
    I have a lot of respect for sailors. Especially sailors serving on tin cans and in the flat bottom Navy. Embarked on a 805 foot, 40,000 ton helicopter assault ship didn't guarantee a smooth sea. That thing rocked enough that aircrews would fight to launch just to get off of it for an hour or two. But the escorts...... I had a few meetings on frigates and destroyers where I noticed footprints overhead in the passageways. 60 degree rolls weren't that uncommon in heavy seas. Jeeezzz...
    Thanks, my buddy Devil Dog. You are right.

    My last few years in, I cross rated to Surface Sonar Technician (STG) and my last sea duty was on a frigate. A small FFG-38, the USS Curts.
    Like was mentioned earlier. Sometimes we spent more time under the water than above it.
    Espicially in the Yankee Box chasing their boomers.
    The Yankee class Russian subs had long been scrapped by them, but the area off Alaska still retained its name.
    That is where they loved to hide and wait for their orders to launch their nukes on us.
    ...and it was my job as Sonar Supervisor to ensure we knew their every move.
    sometimes with puke bag in-hand.

    Look at "Deadliest Catch" if you want to see what those seas are like 100% of the time.
    That was why they liked to stay under those seas ready to launch on us.
    They foolishly thought it would hinder our detection abilities.
    Not a chance.
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    The Cold War still rages on folks........
    Shoot straight, Pardner!

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    Bear D - Recon. Bear F - ASW.
    Other versions can and do carry missiles.

    I was an Electronic Warfare technician for my 20.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Retirednsmilin View Post
    Yup!

    When I was on the America we tested the Russian response time by launching an Alpha strike from Vestfjord in Norway.
    We caught them totally unawares.

    We lost their shadow vessels by driving right through each and every storm we saw in the north Atlantic on our way there.
    Some of those storms were pretty hairy.
    Once I stuck my head out past the blast doors on the hangar bay and looked UP at a wave we were about to plow through!
    The best way to describe the experience is to be in an elevator going up and down 12 stories for three weeks straight.
    Even some old salts were starting to loose it.
    My father told me similar story about his time serving in the South Pacific during WW2. His ship the USSManlove DE36. The storm was rough his ship would rise with the swell and he could see the Fleet then his ship would lower and all he could see is water like waves all around his ship and nothing else. He would look up and see nothing but water IIRC it was during a typhoon. About the Bear bombers they have been flying past Alaska since forever. Never gave me one moment of concern.
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